Apr 30 2011 01:28 AM ET

'Fringe' recap: 'The Last Sam Weiss' and the first glimpse of the future of 'Fringe'

The conclusion of this week’s Fringe — and the remarkable amount of information crammed into the coming attractions for next week’s season finale — was Read the full post.

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  • shoegirl927

    Not surprising, but the clip left me confused. We saw our Walter old, evil Walter alive and threatening Peter(who we know there is only one of). I saw our blonde Olivia and I saw Olivia #2. How could one universe have all these doubles? It couldn’t happen… I get how Walternate could replace our Walter by locking him up but what can they do with our Olivia? Walternate said to Peter something about him destroying his would so he was gonna destroy ours???? Very confused about this and I watched “LOST”.

  • JohnnyA

    Hello to all Fringe fans. Missed this episode on Friday (unexpected prolonged family visit prevented my viewing of the show), so had to watch it On Demand (with commercials at that. FF was disabled. GEEZ).
    Anyhow, saw the episode and been reading the comments here. Like I always do after every episode. And first thing I wanna talk about is the Yellow Universe.
    Blue and Red does make Purple, but I agree with most here that it’s the primary colors thing that makes sense here, so thus Yellow. What this means in the scope of the series as relates to the trailer for next week? Well, the universes crash together and somehow combine. This makes sense, but this is not a 50/50 split. I think our universe is the one that comes out of this crash mostly intact with remnants of the alt-verse joining this universe. A dual-verse? So the future that Peter Bishop finds himself in is the new universe albeit with a few major changes. A war has broken out with the survivors of the Alt-verse fighting our universe, but in OUR universe. Peter finds that life has gone on from the point that he entered the machine. He doesn’t remember this life because his consciousness occupying the body is the 2011 one whereas that body in question is 2021. His mind essentially skipped ahead 10yrs.
    What the next episode deals with and possibly into season 4 is Peter’s glimpse of the future. He’s still in the machine. I wouldn’t doubt that it turns out to be an instant or some very short amount of time that Peter actually spent in the machine while it felt to him like a lifetime. He sees the future and it is terrible for both sides. This possibly motivates him to prevent the collapse or collision of both the universes (to preserve both) which will be the overriding plot through S4.
    I think once this universe/alt-verse plot is done, that Fringe should wrap up. S4 and possibly season 5 should suffice. One of the things that bugged me about Lost is a quote I read from one of the creators who said that they just ran out of ideas. That annoyed me to no end, and still annoys me. The writers of Fringe should focus on completing this story as best they can and let Fringe go into the history books as one of the best scifi shows of all time. Don’t extend it beyond its story. You do one story and the next one you try to outdo yourself, to go bigger. How much bigger can you get than alternate parallel universes?
    Don’t fall into the same pit as Lost, X-Files (never watched Alias, though been in love with Jennifer Garner since her Felicity days hehe), and many other shows.
    So here’s toasting to the finale and a very long summer awaiting season 4. I’m sure this Friday’s episode will be epic (cliffhanger or not). And cheers to all Fringe fans around the world. :)

  • lorelei

    I have been watching the show from the beginning, and I am lost. I don’t know what’s going on, I can’t tie any of the pieces together, I don’t know who or what the “First People” were, can’t figure out the “Observers,” don’t remember the introduction of “Sam Weiss,” and apparently missed most of this episode. And I’m loving every minute of it!

  • Josh

    Some thoughts:

    1. I always thought of our universe as being the “green” one, not blue; besides the coloring of the title sequence which definitely looks more green than blue to me, we call the other universe “red” in part because of things there being red that were green here, like green/red lantern, etc. I think our side is green, not blue.

    2. This is not a “monster of the week”/standalone-type show and hasn’t been for a long time, if ever. The standalone episodes in the early seasons were a means to an end, I think, a way of slowly introducing the concept of parallel worlds – just as Olivia discovered it for herself after putting many pieces together, it was meant to be the same for us. This is a show about parallel worlds, and while it’s your right to not like that, that is what the show is and really always has been. On a metaphorical level, the show could be said to be about the consequences of actions, when things done for the right reasons go wrong, about the path not taken or how little choices can be so defining to what we do (or don’t become).

    3. I’m wondering if in the future Peter glimpses, he sees a world where he chose to save our universe, not the one over there. We know from a “6:02 AM EST” that there are at least a small quantity of devices allowing people from over there to travel here, albeit not very safely, so that can explain the presence of Walternate in our future. Anyway, I wonder if in the future, Peter comes to realize that his choice is to destroy the red universe to save ours, but that that salvation is only temporary, that our world isn’t meant to last regardless of what he does; or, that he can sacrifice our world so that their world could be healed completely. Wouldn’t that be an interesting dilemma – temporarily save our world at the expense of the other, or accept that our world is going to disappear anyway, and use his ability to choose to ensure that the universe that is capable of surviving long-term (theirs) does? I don’t know if that’s where they’re going with this — but the promos have said that only one universe can survive — and if that’s the case, I don’t know that the showrunners would go with the obvious choice of saving ours.

    4. I don’t think Peter and Olivia are chosen, not necessarily. Maybe it was just predicted. The Observers can travel through time and observe the future and past; maybe the first people had a similar capability, so the drawings of Peter and Olivia weren’t about saying they were chosen, maybe it was just that they witnessed that that was how things happened, and took note of it?

    5. I don’t think we’re seeing a third universe, or a combination universe. In a fairly recent interview, Wyman and Pinkner said they had no plans to do a third universe. Maybe they were just deliberately misleading us, but I don’t think so. I think we were seeing the end of the world as we know it. The episode’s called “The Day We Died” — not “the day they died” or “the day a third universe of people died”. Maybe that’s too obvious, but.. I don’t think these episode titles are accidental.

    6. Please don’t hate me for disagreeing with some of what has been posted here :)

  • Josh

    lorelei -

    - The purpose and powers of the Observers have never been fully explained (though maybe they one day will be). It appears that they don’t experience time and space the way we do, that is, that they can be in all places and no place at once. They don’t interact with our world the way we do (as evidenced, for example, by their inability to enjoy our food…eat it, yes, get any real sensation out of it, no). They have appeared at almost every major event in our history, and while they seem to be able to live for an incredibly long time, they’re not invincible. Their motivations and origin remain unknown.

    - The First People were the ones who made the machine. They were a society that existed long before history was recorded here on earth, probably before the ice age, before dinosaurs, etc. They were technologically advanced beyond what we could imagine, and partly because of that, destroyed themselves (presumably by accident).

    - Sam Weiss was introduced in Season 2, when Olivia came back from “over there” for the first time — Nina sent Olivia to the bowling alley to meet with Sam, saying that he could help her recover from her injuries, and he did help to nurse her back to health. For instance, she had lost some of the use of her leg, and Sam helped her regain that. We learned last week that Sam comes from a long line of people (other family members known also as “Sam Weiss” or historical equivalents of that name) whose somehow have come into possession of knowledge of the first people. It would seem that one of Sam’s purposes is to attempt to prevent whatever destroyed the first people from being allowed to happen again.

    • lorelei

      Thanks!

  • Brie

    I can’t believe I missed this post! Anyway, I loved the episode and am officially hyped for the finale.

  • O

    Broyles is going to die.

  • O

    The two worlds merged aren’t. Peter is/will find out what will happen in both universes depeding on his choice for one or the other. Tomorrow’s episode will be split between the two worlds. He won’t end up choosing either which will set up next season.

  • JRWT

    Love Fringe. Glad to finally see Peter in the machine. I could not have guessed what the outcome would be. I can’t wait for this week’s episode.

  • Redskin

    Just finished wathing the season finale. So now Peter never existed? Then what started the wormholes in the first place? Oh, wait, that’s the cliff hanger!:-)

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