Jan 10 2011 11:39 PM ET

Jon Stewart struggled admirably with the funny on Monday's 'Daily Show': VIDEO

Jon Stewart struggled to put on a Daily Show on Monday night that could contain the tragedy of the Arizona shootings. Read the full post.

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  • Timster

    Regarding sources of news, I haven’t heard any mention of Democracy Now (Amy Goodman, Juan Gonzales, Jeremy Scahill). It’s on 800 radio stations and on satellite TV. Her new book, “Breaking the Sound Barrier”, on the NYT Bestseller list, the ‘Sound Barrier’ referring to the cacophony of voices you usualy hear on MSM. DM follows up on news stories that others have left to die. It is worth checking out. I could go on but you can Wikipedia it if you like.

  • Serena

    The reason that people are calling out the violence in the language and images used by the right is because Giffords herself specifically mentioned that there are consequences to those actions when Palin put her gunsight graphic up on her webpage — that was targeting Giffords!

    Although people like Palin might not have personally called up this nutjob and told him to do it, and he might not even be aligning with their politics, they are not absolved from their encouragement of violence. When we foster a vitriolic environment where it is publicly acceptable to put gunsights, even just the image, on your opponent and hold events where you link shooting guns with getting someone out of office and you use the phrase “Second Amendment Solution” to refer to how to deal with those whose ideas you do not agree with — well, I just think is sending a clear message of violence, especially gun violence, as the solution to dealing with those in office that you may not agree with.

  • Edpeak

    Straw man argument to say “it would be nice to say that the violent political rhetoric cause this, but you can’t”

    It’s a straw man argument. The issue is not whether putting CROSS HAIRS images on your opponents “causes” the violence but whether it CONTRIBUTES IT

    • Henrietta

      Wow! That’s a really neat ansewr!

  • foobar

    Some people are missing the point. The problem with Beck/Limbaugh/Palin is not the the “spew” or the “rhetoric” part. They can go ahead and spew all the rhetoric they want. The problem is the “violent” part. When they “spew violent rhetoric” that is a problem. By spewing violent rhetoric, they have helped created the current political atmosphere. Did they _want_ the violence to happen, to intimidate their opponents? I don’t know. However, they wanted to use the power of violent metaphors, at least. They deserve some of the blame for the violent consequences.

    E.g., the guy above saying Al Gore is also to blame. You may think he spews rhetoric, but he doesn’t advocate violence. Not sure why the distinction is so difficult for people to see.

  • Crystal

    One of my biggest problems with this argument is that everyone is either “He’s just crazy” or “The conservatives’ rhetoric (specifically Palin’s) pushed him to it.” The issue is not black and white and these are not the only two options. Yes, he was certainly mentally ill, but that does not mean the violent rhetoric used on all sides in the political arena did not have an influence and, therefore, should not rethink their violent rhetoric. He may have been “crazy”, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t impacted by the world around him (in fact, mental illness can be caused by a variety of biological *and* environmental factors). Let’s not dismiss him as a lunatic and think that means we don’t have anything to learn from this. His actions weren’t unknowable, that’s dismissive and lazy rhetoric for claiming no one is responsible. As Stewart said, we live in a world full of complex relationships that may be difficult to grasp, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try.

  • KGUN?

    “The blame lies with the man who pulled the trigger…” attached to a killing machine that should be outlawed, along with personal grenade launchers and landmines.

  • george perry

    From the 1920s through the 1980s millions of people were murdered by Fascists espousing far right rhetoric, and communists espousing far left nonsense. Only a fool would fail to see the danger of tolerating government by radicalism. Please study the history of these insane events, feel the unbelievable pain and suffering caused. Then reflect. Is the US in danger of a working class left wing revolution?? Nonsense, we have little of a working class left. Our danger is from the right. Read about the Klu Klus Klan and what it accomplished in the 1920s and 30s. The Father Coughlin movement, McCarthyism in the late 40s and 50s. If a few voices from the left throw rocks at the Becks, Limbaughs, Palins, et al and get a bit of traction using the events of Arizona I’ll welcome it. The long history of black suppression, gay hating, women abusing, immigrant bashing, American exceptionalist jiingoism by the far right excuses for me some excess by the left. Give em hell Harry.

  • cimanon

    I’m gonna take a stab at this and say that: when tragedies of this magnitude happen i.e. The DC Sniper, Oklahoma City Bombing, that little event that took place in 2001…trying to line thing up in sequential order doesn’t work. This tragedy is of a social nature not political and if it could even be laid at the feet of politicians, you’d have to blame both parties–all politicians. To do that is to give the pundits and hacks way to much credit, IMHO.

  • seethereality

    “Crazy”, “lunatic”, “psycho”, why do we always fail to see the reality of mental illness? The blame here falls on our society, a society that continues to ignore this devastating disease and how it affects it’s victims. Mental illness turns a good caring person into someone unrecognizable to their loved ones and shunned by society. This is a disease that time and time again takes the lives of innocent people through unexplainable violent acts. After every past horrific shooting the facts have come to light that the shooter was mentally ill. It is a devastating disease. Yet it is a DISEASE. In this age of advanced scientific medical knowledge, of well funded studies to find cures for our most life threatening diseases, we continue to ignore the most horribly destructive disease of all diseases: mental illness. John Stewart said, “wouldn’t it be a shame if we don’t take this opportunity to make sure that the world we are creating now won’t be shattered by another moment of lunacy.” If we want to stop moments of lunacy then we need to pay attention to mental illness and put as much effort into finding a cure for it as we do to other diseases such as cancer and aids. The shooter was a victim also. He and those he shot succumbed to the disease of mental illness. It’s as pure and simple as that. The reason this happened? A disease called mental illness did it. Cure this disease and there will be no more moments of lunancy.

  • John Mason

    John Stewart is a Racist, so we know what he really feels about the shooter. He has no African Americans on his show; has never hired African Americans on his editorial staff; and according to a current staffer would never have a black leading anything that he runs. We need to stop celebrating and discussing this bigot and expose him for what he is. If he didn’t have the job he has, his kid would probably be one of the shooters.

  • NEO KORBEN

    THIS GUY IS GREAT,REAL HUMAN AND VERY FUNNY.

  • Betty Elder

    A local right wing radio talkshow host said a couple days ago that 2 of the people who tackled the assassin were carrying guns. He said and I quote, “Thank god they didn’t have to use the guns.” Whaaa? I thought it as so very odd coming from such a vitriolic 2nd amendment rights crazy as the local bkfld rightwinger is.

  • RHETTGARCIA@hotmail.com

    And I think you’ll find yourself even more impressed with Congresswoman Giffords and amazed at how much living some the deceased packed into lives that were cut way too short. And if there is real solace in this, I think it’s that for all the hyperbole and a vitriol that’s become a part of our political process, when the reality of that rhetoric, when actions match the disturbing nature of words, we haven’t lost our capacity to be horrified. And please, God, let us hope we never do. Let us hope we never become numb to what real horror, what the real blood of patriots looks like when it’s spilled. Maybe it helps us to remember to match our rhetoric with reality more often because the reality of dangerous rhetoric is I think, even those that speak
    hyperbolically, I think all of them tonight would absolutely recoil and say, “Wow, you know, that is not the picture of what we were discussing, of what we were talking about.” And I have to remember that there’s a reality to that situation that we can’t approach verbally. Because someone or something will shatter our world again. And wouldn’t it be a shame if we didn’t take this opportunity and the loss of these incredible people and the pain that their loved ones are going through right now, wouldn’t it be a shame if we didn’t take that moment to make sure that the world that we are creating now, that will ultimately be shattered again by a moment of lunacy, wouldn’t it be a shame if that world wasn’t better than the one we previously lost? So how will we process tonight? Absolutely no idea.

    • Jenn

      YMMD with that aswnre! TX

  • RHETTGARCIA@hotmail.com

    Boy would that be nice! Boy would it be nice to be able to draw a straight line of causation from this horror to something tangible, because then we could convince ourselves that if we just stopped this, the horrers will end. You know, to have the feeling,
    however fleeting, that this type of event can be prevented forever. But it’s hard to not feel like it can’t, you know. You cannot outsmart crazy. You don’t know what a troubled mind will get caught on. Crazy always seems to find a way. It always has. Which is not to suggest that resistence is futile (laughs.) It sounded pretty dark, what I just said there. Now that I reconsidered it in my own head. “Crazy people rule us all!” I don’t think that’s true, but, and I do think it’s important for us to watch our rhetoric. I do think that it’s a worthwhile goal not to conflate our political opponents with enemies. If for no other reason than to draw a better distinction between the manifestos of paranoid madmen and what passes for acceptable, political, and pundit
    speech. You know, it would be really nice if the ramblings of crazy people didn’t in any way resemble how we actually talk to each other on TV. Let’s, let’s at least make troubled individuals easier to spot. And you know, again, it is, to see good people like this hurt, it is so grievious and it causes me such sadness. But again, I refuse to give in to that feeling of dispair. There is light in this situation. I urge everyone, read up about those who were hurt and or killed in this shooting. You will be comforted by
    just how much anonymous goodness there really is in the world. You read about these people and you realize that people you don’t even know, that you have never met, are leading lives of real dignity and goodness and you hear about crazy but it’s rarer than you think.

  • RHETTGARCIA@hotmail.com

    You know it’s hard to know what to say. Obviously the events this weekend in Arizona weigh heavily. Sadly it is a feeling that this country has experienced all too often and unfortunately for our show, the closer that we have gotten towards discussing and dealing with current events, the harder it becomes in situations where reality is truly sad. I can give you a typical compilation of the day’s news, excesses, but it doesn’t really seem appropriate and clearly none of our correspondents feels much like standing around reporting, pretending to be in Washington. At least I don’t think they do. (…) So here we are again, stunned by a tragedy. We have been visited by this demon before. Our hearts go out to the those who have been injured or killed and their loved ones. How do you make sense of these types of senseless situations is really the question that seems to be on everybody’s minds. I don’t know that there is a way to make sense of this sort of thing. As I watch the political-pundit world, many are reflecting and grieving and trying to figure things out. But it’s definitely true that others are working feverishly to find the tidbit or two that will exonerate their side from blame or implicate the other. And watching that is as predictable I think as it is
    dispiriting. Did the toxic political environment cause this? A graphic image here? An ill-timed comment? Violent rhetoric? Those types of things… “I have no f—ing idea. You know, we live in a complex ecosystem of influences and motivations and I wouldn’t blame our political rhetoric any more than I would blame heavy metal music for Columbine. And by the way, that is coming from somebody who truly hates our political environment. It is toxic. It is unproductive. But to say that that is what has caused this or that the people in that are responsible for this, I just don’t think you can do.

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