When Glee premiered, I was a big supporter of the show — it struck me as fresh, innovative, funny, and occasionally touching. Now in its second season, Glee regularly makes my skin crawl — it srikes me as repetitive, preachy, mawkish, and only occasionally funny.
From the comments I’m reading on EW.com and elsewhere, some of you feel the same way.
So what’s happened to Glee? Well, it became a huge hit. That means it acquired more creative freedom from its network. And that freedom became its trap. Glee has been indulging its worst instincts. I don’t mean the much-derided theme-shows — I actually enjoyed the Britney Spears episode more than any other this season thus far. I mean ones like last week’s “Grilled Cheesus,” which approached the subject of faith with all the tedious even-handedness of a United Nations meeting. No point of view was left behind: Believers and non-believers; religions galore were celebrated; and Kurt’s dad had to go into a coma to prove that the combined force of gargantuan Glee good-will, when dampened with tears, could provide salvation. If the episode had been any more loudly inspirational, I would have fallen asleep. All that, plus we were tortured with a Glee cover of a Billy Joel song.
I keep watching Glee not only out of professional duty, but out of genuine curiosity about where the show is headed each week, and in search of reasons for why and how it’s become so strident.
If you’re going to criticize “Glee” for this then you really need to slam “Modern Family” for it….Glee has been fun this season, minus the mindless Britney ep…Modern Family however…has lost it’s charm and wit…it’s fallen prey to trite sitcom plots (i.e. one character won’t go to church, getting out of lies, a character trapped in a room). If anything is in a sophomore slump it’s Modern Family. Glee has stayed a fun hit.
Glee I’ve found is just getting a little too serious with itself. Modern Family I have to admit may not be AS funny as it was at first. But every episode still gives me big laughs! That Grille Cheesus episode I found was the worst of both seasons, but hey, thats just my opinion.
The “Grilled Cheesus” episode was the worst of the season so far. It wasn’t a terrible episode, but it was just WAY too preachy.
Yeah, I hated Grilled Cheesus too because it was way too cute and pat with it’s “All beliefs are a-okay.” I don’t need Glee telling me how to be PC, like a Saturday afternoon special. I just want good storytelling and music that is appropriate to telling that story, not music wedged in because it is part of a theme.
Plus they make Finn unbelievably dumb, as in not funny comedy dumb, but a in “get him a caseworker” dumb.
I thought grilled cheesus was the best episode of glee thus far. I thought that it handled religion respectfully and gave us the opportunity to dialogue about it. Not too many show handle this subject tactfully and with such good humor.
Those who liked the grilled cheesus episode compliment it on how well it handled religion, and at first glance it’s true, but does anyone remember how the episode ended. Mercedes took Kurt to church but then they just ended that particular segment of the story. We never got closure to the episodes stance on where it was taking it. In other words there was a strong buildup with a weak ending.
@will– That’s why the episode was so great… Kurt doesn’t have to decide whether he doesn’t or does believe in God… and the show doesn’t have to give a definitive answer; again it allows everyones view to be presented… there’s no “final scene”; everyone gets the chance to say their part and they let it finish that way instead of making one person right or wrong or one point of view becoming more important than another.
Glee lost its footing by becoming WAY to enamoured of itself. It’s not like it’s turned to crap, but it’s become like the spoiled Jr High girl who is believes that everyone will love her simply because, well, she’s HER. The laziness of the theme episode forces the storyine into convoluted and forced areas.
Maybe I’m missing something about where everyone thinks “Grilled Cheesus” went wrong, but I rather appreciated the fact that the religious beliefs or lack thereof for over a dozen characters were all respected and given a voice. To be honest, we didn’t really touch on all that many – mainly just Christianity, Judaism, and the non-believers, so you can’t really argue that they overkilled the episode with a downpour of religion. I thought it was an honest representation of how I hope high schoolers are addressing theirs and others beliefs or non-belief. Maybe it was cliche to have Kurt’s dad finally respond in his coma just at the end, but then, what show hasn’t had a cliche like that? We don’t watch TV shows because they’re exactly like real life (in which case, there would be lots more “umm”s in the dialogue!) but because it gives us an interesting and sometimes idealized view of life and how we’d like it to be. I wish this was how teenagers were able to talk about religion with their peers, parents, and teachers. And maybe the episode wasn’t the best TV episode ever, but the fact that they were able to tackle this incredibly sensitive topic with respect, humor, and “even-handedness of a United Nations meeting” meant a lot more to me than just another episode about dating, singing, football, and slushies.
Maybe I am missing something- I thought “Grilled Cheesus”, while stupid in subplot, was actually pretty good at the message they were trying to convey. I have lost both my mother and father and, as one who is an atheist, it made those feelings of conflict come up again. Coming home to a parent gone and wondering what now- that was something quite profound and I applaud them for approaching a delicate subject(even with all the redundant sporadic showtunes).
i just started watching modern family b/c everyone raved about it…i don’t get it
Grilled Cheesus was terrible, but I’ve never actually watched Glee because of it’s great plots, humour and characters, I watch it for the music. Problem now is that not only do I find the plots and the characters more stupid than last season, I also find them boring. And that goes for the music as well. There’s just too much autotuning and too many stiff and selfimportant numbers in the hallways. Where’s the fun and the genuine heartfelt performances that made you go ‘wow!’? The closest they’ve gotten this season is Colfer’s I Wanna Hold Your Hand, but even that was so melodramatic and cheesy (no pun intended actually) that I couldn’t quite love it.
Grilled Cheesus was the first episode to open my eyes to how cheesy the show really is. I used to love it. Now I see it kind of…cheats…to get ratings. They went religious to get the red state ratings. Just watch, soon they are going to “go country”. “There’s something for everyone” does not necessarily make a good show. Now people watch the show because they know there will be at least one song every episode they recognize. If I want to hear renditions of my favorite songs I’ll buy a Kid Bopz CD. I want a story!
I’m reminded at how much moonlighting fell apart after it became a hit. Hopefully, this won’t happen here. The over-the-top character twists have always grated and felt forced (will seducing sue, terri’s fake pregnancy, sue making up ae sexual assault charge against beiste), luckily they always seem to reign back and make the characters emotionally believable (like this last week).
Don’t try to redirect the criticism to another show, it’s petty. Defend your show on it’s merits instead of trying to point out the faults of others.
I agree with “The Jackal”
The Jackal, rational and logical comments like yours are few and far between on this website. Well said.
The Jackal, If you are going to defend this article than brush up on the man who wrote it. Ken Tucker uses a comparison of shows almost everytime he writes yet you chose to side with him? I find this a little hypocritical.
@goober, referencing your use of the word “hypocritical,” I shall use a famous quote … “You keep using this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”
I de-DVR’d Glee after the last episode. It’s not that I will never watch it again, it’s just something that I HAVE to see.
@jodipo His use of the word “hypocritical” was correct, regardless of the veracity of what he was saying. I do not think it means what *you* think it means.
I want to know what jodipo thinks hypocritical means. Jodipo’s phrasing made me think of Mary Catherine Gallagher.
Supastah!!!
@jodipo: Haha yes! that quote made my night!
Modern Family has been really funny this season!
Modern Family is still good. The episode with the kiss was for me the funniest episode yet.
The Britney Spears episode was about the worst EVER for Glee…SO glad that tonight’s episode was so amazingly good!! “Le Jazz Hot” was the best Glee song ever, and the Santana/Mercedes duet and the Rachel/Kurt duet were tremendously good, too. LOVED this episode!!
Since I loce the signing I wouldn’t slam this episode but Le Jazz Hot was just ridiculous. And Lea and Kurt are the best singers but coul dwe please find something other than a Steisand number.
@me: learn to proofread your posts, watch Victor/Victoria and you’ll realize how the number was staged just like the movie, and qualify how it was “ridiculous”.
I agree, I hadn’t been liking this season much at all thus far, but this weeks episode was really good! It just felt like good ol Glee, no themes, no preachy PSA messages, it was just good character development and good songs, and it was fun.
Le jazz hot was fantastic.
I came here to say just that. I thought that this week’s ep really got back to the roots that made me fall in love with Glee’s unapologetic campiness to begin with.
The first episode of Modern Family this season was just alright, but the next two were hilarious. Last week’s earthquake episode was the best yet!
As for Glee, tonight was the first episode I enjoyed all season. Loved the all the duets. Missed Sue though!
Are You Crazy ! Modern Family Is Getting Funnier Every Week ! But Glee Has Become A Cringe Worthy Show
I Like Your Enthusiastic Use Of Capitalization!
Ken Tucker sucks. He like the Brit episode and hated Grilled Cheesus? PUH-LEASE! Where’s Tim Stack?
Psh. Glee is the worst hit show to ever be on television. And Modern Family’s just a watered-down versions of actually funny shows, like Arrested Development.
@Sizzle: Bit of a TV snob, aren’t we? I love AD. I also love Modern Family. But we Modern Family fans are all a lot more stupider than you.
Glee is suffering from Sophomore Slump. It will get better in its Junior year.
The problem in TV though is that you can’t waste an entire year on a sophomore slump. You’ve got to admit that you are losing fans and fix it.
Are they actually losing fans? All I’ve heard is that ratings are as good as they’ve ever been, and I’m pretty sure they made news when the Britney episode actually drew more viewers than the premiere the week before, which is unheard-of in the ratings world.
you’re kidding right?!?! modern family has been excellent and all your points regarding it were from one episode out of the three that have aired thats not enough meanwhile glee has been going down since spring last year and this year just proves it this show has been sucking lately and one more episode like this and ima quit it
Aaron: You could not be more wrong. Sounds as if you’re grumpy because you didn’t have your Apple Jacks for breakfast this morning.
What’s the sense of comparing “Modern Family” with “Glee”? They have virtually nothing in common, but they are both among the finest shows on TV.
“Modern Family” is a single-camera sitcom with hilarious but very real characters. If you didn’t like one or two recent episodes, don’t call that a sophmore slump. Saying it has “lost its charm and wit” only demonstrates that you either haven’t been paying attention, or you haven’t understood its humor. “Glee” is a comedy/drama/musical that has the difficult task of balancing all of those genres in each episode.
Oh, what’s the use in trying to make a point with so many nitwits around.
I agree – Glee is starting to feel as though every episode is an after-school special. Tone down the drama, and bring back the funny. Also, the songs this year have been horrible (with the exception of maybe 1 or 2 songs). Not all Glee fans are big Broadway/Showtune fans. Get back to songs the rest of us know.
Thanks, Jason for articulating something I was having a hard time saying. At one point, Glee was slyly anti-afterschool special (eg Emma’s pamphlets, quinn’s pregnancy, becky). now it is like “we are a hit so we have a responsibility”.
S1 had problems of uneven tone. Now it has a consistent tone: boring.
There’s nothing wrong with having so many genres of music on this show. And people may not be fans of Broadway, but after seeing some of the songs on this show and how they’ve been performed, I’ve become interested in musicals and broadening what I like.
And Glee is still funny and awesome! Part of what Glee is all about is opening your minds to the possibility of another opinion, lifestyle, relationship, etc. While Grilled Cheesus didn’t show every viewpoint of religion, it did show the struggle that some teens have in deciding what they believe. Finn wasn’t made to be stupid either. It reminded me of all those people who get fanatical over the images of Jesus or Mary in food or nature.
Glee hasn’t lost anything in my opinion. I still laugh throughout every episode. Even the Britney episode.
Yeah, I agree with Jason and BJ and everyone else who’s said that it just feels like an after-school special so often. I’m sure it’s great for ratings, but it’s just so much less fun to watch.
Modern Family is brilliant. The two should not be compared at all or even mentioned in the same breath. And lets be honest the only reason people watch Glee is the same reason they watch America Idol, to hear their favourite songs rehashed. It’s certainly not for the storylines, UGH.
Totally agree bjr! At least with American Idol, some of the kids can sing and make the songs sound something more than terrible karaoke. No song on Glee has come close to the original in terms of quality. The only comparison you can make between Glee and Modern Family is that they are both on tv.
@Aaron: Our opinions, differ. The first half of season 1 of GLee was amazing! It gave us an even amount of comedy, drama, laughter and tears, with an occasional song thrown in that helped moved the story along. When it came back from hiatus – the back half of season 1 on, it’s been an indulgent mess where they have songs for the sake of having songs, and thinks it can go no wrong. Now they break out in song just to hear themselves and mostly Rachel sing (do we need to hear her sing multiple times per show?).
Go back to the drawing board and remember how you started.
TOTALLY agree. S1 Part 1 was amazing and fresh and had a bit of everything in the right doses but ever since that hiatus it’s been ‘we’re great and we can do no wrong’. I really hope it’ll get back to that. Also I’m really glad that someone on ew.com is reading our comments as I thought we were getting ignored.
Funny , I thought Glee was supposed to be a satire when it first came on .
Clearly, there is bitterness in the land of Glee because Modern Family won the Emmy for Best Comedy. They are two different shows, and comparing them is pointless. Bashing one show does nothing to disprove anything Ken says about the other. Clearly, the idea that MF has lost its wit and charm are your opinions, so there is no point arguing with you on that one.
“Modern Family” is just fine and it’s retained the same level of comedy it always has. The problem with “Glee” is that it is floating away into “Popular” territory. What stareted off as a satirical look at the underdog life of glee club members, has now took a detour into the over the top, that-would-never-happen-in-a-real-highschool” that Ryan Murphy’s brilliantly underrated “Popular used to have. Don’t get me wrong, that isn’t necessarily a bad thing. However, when you actually get to a dramatic scene, it becomes rather hard to take it seriously lest it is “Yentl” homage week. I do have to agree that the show seems really self indulgent these days by whoring itself out to whatever celebrity who wants in and flaunting the wealth post-airing. I can only imagine what the Rocky Horror episode is going to be like. And if it is supposed to be the Glee crew putting on a Rocky Horror musical, where was the long rehearsals that normally take place before a production? I’m just saying…
So you would rather if they had established on the first episode of this season that they were going to mount RHS as a musical and show in each episode the rehearsing and staging that goes into making a muscial, repeating each song ad naseum until they get it right? That would make for such awful episodic tv. I’m just saying…
I don’t really mind that they have shows focused on certain artists or themes. What I mind is that the plots they build around them are usually so banal.
Agreed that both Glee and Modern Family are lacking lately. I pulled MF from my TiVo at the end of last season actually. It felt like a chore to watch it and it just wasn’t that funny anymore. Glee is becoming that way as well. Each week is a self-contained story that seems trivial to the show as a whole. Each week, this character likes this character all of a sudden… no wait… they hate this character, no wait… next week… same story. It’s getting old. Nip/Tuck fatigue is setting in. That show started out great, but quickly became a circus. Hate to say it but I could easily see removing Glee from my TiVo this season if this crap continues!
If you aren’t enjoying the show then remove it from your TiVo….if you hate it so much then why be a martyr and more importantly, why you wasting our time with your negativity?
hmmmm…. i’m a britney episode hater. i like the show the best when it combines heart (kurt and his dad, mr. shue and emma) with good tunes (sweet caroline, don’t stop believin, etc.) so the theme shows seem contrived and lose me with the music. that said, i can’t wait for the rocky horror episode!
Way to be consistent!
Agreed.
Finally a critic taking a stand against Glee. I think this “hit” is in for a quick fizzle out
I agree, the novelty has worn off
unfortunately your gonna have to deal, it was renewed for a 3rd season before the 2nd even premiered and if the numbers have been an indicator, it will be around at least that long.
@????? Yeah it was renewed cause Fox knows that it can make a lot more money by selling stupid Glee merchandise (like that pointless book they wrote) and auto-tuned karaoke versions of good songs. Let’s be honest, it was all about the money. If money weren’t a factor I think Glee would be cancelled in a heartbeat. I mean, Fox cancelled Dollhouse (a great and unique show with a lot of potential) and that show was so much better than Glee.
I totally agree. I agree with the critic when he says his skin was crawling. Mine was too! I can barely sit through it!
@Mads: when was ever a decision made in the history of television that was not in the financial interest of the network? Making money is their first & last priority. It’s absurdly naive to suggest entertaining YOU entered Fox execs minds. If 30 minutes of bunnies eating carrots sold Hondas, Fox would tentpole it on Thursday nights.
Yeah, sorry Mads, but Yvette nailed it. Networks use TV shows to make money, plain and simple. You’re not exposing some deep, dark secret of the industry here. And the thing with Glee in particular is that not only can they make a bundle of money selling advertising time during the show, it’s extremely unique in the television world to be able to sell a ton of merchandise for a show through other channels. So yeah, you better believe it’s about the money.
Ken Tucker’s view is hardly unprecedented. Take a look at Matt Roush over at TVG — he has, even in the first season, been critical of many of Glee’s shortcomings.
We as the viewing public often set ourselves up for a fall when shows we like begin to fail to live up to the unrealistic expectations. I’ve often wonder if we’ve come to expect way too much from Glee.
Anyone who thought Glee was going to always be THE TOP TO WATCH was deluding themselves. All shows falter, some (and hopefully Glee falls into this territory) are able to find themselves again.
Loook at Ken’s picture. He is a sad, tired, ugly man. That said, I agree. Grilled Cheesus made a lot of noise but said nothing.
What difference does it make what Ken LOOKS like? Jeez; it figures such a shallow fool as you would be a fan of this insufferable show.
I’ll bet you’re no day at the beach yourself, “me.” And to make matters worse, you probably can’t write like Ken or do anything else noteworthy to redeem your ugly self.
Yes, all shows falter, but certainly not within the first season. Even Heroes waited until the 2nd season to suck so hard it couldn’t recover.
I agree with what Marie said, this show faltered fast. But I think it could still recover.
I don’t know how you can say that we’re expecting too much from Glee when our expectations are based on, you know, Glee. And like Marie said, most shows may falter (I disagree that “all” do), but not many do it halfway through their first season.
true dat. Unwatchable.
I hope GLEE will not become the next HEROES.
Too late.
Not yet, although critics are less friends towards the new episodes of GLEE, the ratings are still sky high. If ever the quality and viewership drops drastically then maybe GLEE is the next HEROES
Salon did a long article a few days ago about Glee sucking – before Ken did. (And they also did an article about the misogyny in Social Network, 2 days before ew.com did.)
i’m finding the same thing. This season is just becoming almost torturous to watch. The first season was so quirky and fun. This season, it seems, like the they ditched the previous writers, cause I don’t get NEARLY as many laughs this season as I did previous. Even musically, the show is starting to wear. I’ve found I’m leaning more to “Modern Family” as my TV show of choice. I didn’t watch any of the first season when it was on TV. I bought the DVD and I’m in LOVE! Thats the only TV show I wait for these days…
I completely agree.
WORD.
BOOOORRRRRRING
This. I wish they would spend time developing stories and characters instead of tackling a new subject each week. This isn’t a crime drama where there is a new villian each week, this is a show about a club that wants to thrive, win competitions, etc. and it needs an overarching storyline. I haven’t seen tonight’s episode, but why introduce all those new characters in the premiere when they have only gotten a grand total of 3 lines each since the premiere?
Basically, enough with the stand alone aspect of the show. Get back to creating a grand story.
I enjoyed the first 13 episodes last year with the steady build up to sectionals – now all Glee does are confined one episode stories.
That is the same cutoff point I have for when things started to go wrong. I enjoyed certain episodes after that but the whole feel was off.
Me too. I didn’t even buy the season 1 dvd when it came out because I couldn’t see myself re-watching many of the second set of episodes and I already had ‘road to sectionals’. I was in love with Glee, now I’m in like with it. Still love Kurt though.
I agree w/bamalam… I also wonder how this club relates to the rest of high school life. Why don’t we see them in Schuster’s spanish class, or taking chemistry or algebra?
Quickly – can’t stand Rachel anymore. She was endearing last season, now I don’t enjoy her in the least! And why did Finn get dumb all of a sudden? Why does he have to be dumb, too?
That is my biggest problem, too. Last year you could at least root for Rachel. This year? I just dislike her. I am still DVR’ing, but I’m falling behind because of the weakness of the season. I am just thrilled they are using the supporting cast more this year (Mike, Mercedes, Britney) than last year, because there is no way I could deal with Rachel as the focus every episode.
Completely agree. My major problem this season involves how the characters are being written, particularly Rachel and Finn. Rachel went from slightly grating but cute to downright shrill and obnoxious. Finn is just unrealistically stupid, and this isn’t even keeping with his character. I’m still watching the show, but I agree with Ken the second season is showing signs of serious problems.
You’re kidding about Finn getting dumb “all of a sudden”, right? This is the guy who thought he got a girl he’d never slept with pregnant.
don’t know what you’re talking about. today was the best episode of the season, HANDS DOWN and one of the best episodes in a very long while.
I feel like today’s episode proved how great glee can be when it doesn’t peter off into gimmicks or self-congratulatoriness but stays funny, sweet,quirky and charming like today’s episode was.
Also, the Britney episode was one of the single worst hours of television I’ve seen this year so I have no idea what you’re talking about there.
Glee is the new Twilight.
YES! I’ve posted numerous times about the ridiculous amount of coverage EW.com gives to this show. As of right now, the top three stories are all Glee. It’s reached Twilight levels here. I feel like I’m coming over to Tiger Beat every time I come to EW.com.
A magazine that covers pop culture… yeah, they should avoid these things.
@Elizabeth, there is plenty of other pop culture out there. EW gives an excessive amount to Twilight and Glee. Less Twilight recently because there are no movies coming out in the near future (Thank GOD!)
Didn’t come back this season, as I guess I must have unconsciously saw the seeds of this then. Glad I didn’t. Don’t miss it.
Should be “seen” instead of “saw.” Sorry.
It’s ok Chaz, sometimes we make mistakes.
I did the same. Completed the first season but made a choice not to come back for a second season if it didn’t improve by the end of the first… It never got back to it’s charming beginings. It’s sad because I was so excited for the pilot when it first aired.
I totally agree it got all preachy. The episode that did it for me was when Kurt was trying to force his lifestyle on Fin and Fin tells him to back off and Kurt’s dad gets all righteous and makes Fin out to be the bad guy.
Because Finn was the bad guy! Kurt didn’t try to force anything on Finn…He was trying to make him feel more at home in his own way. And Finn’s use of the word “faggy” was very wrong. So I completely agree with Burt flipping out at Finn. Maybe you think it’s ok to use any variation of the word “fag” but you’re wrong…End of story
Same here. I never really liked Glee, but tried several times to watch it but this was the episode that I stopped trying to care. They made that plot like it was a deep comment on homophobia, when really the situation was much more complex than that. I think the show was never that great, but the novelty was enough to get ppl hooked. The show isn’t very well written, and I rather listen to the real versions of the songs they cover. Then their renditions are auto-tuned like mad (despite having an excellent cast already on vocals) so it sounds like a Kidz Bop version and I just can’t do it.
Thank you so much! I stopped watching the program after that episode. Kurt is such a leering, manipulative character but apparently Ryan Murphy failed to see this creepy behavior as terrible. Instead, it was a “wonderful teaching moment.”
I agree completely, and according to the episode that aired tonight they acknowledged that flaw. However it makes me wonder if the writers for the show view the message boards to find “what’s bugging fans this week”, which in my opinion is lazy and uninspired. I just hope they don’t start adapting “fan fiction”…the horror
I thought I was the only one who saw the huge flaws in that episode because everywhere I looked everyone was saying ‘this is a step forward for gay people..’ but all I saw was that Finn felt uncomfortable and because of that had a middle aged man screaming at him without knowing what was going on. I don’t like how a gay character can make a straight character feel uneasy in his ‘home’ and it’s okay because he’s gay…but if he were straight it’d be different. That brings peoples views on gay people back a few steps. My gay friends really didn’t like that episode.
To the show’s credit, they dealt with Kurt’s actions in the recent episode. He got called out for his behavior by Finn and his dad. It was good for the character and for the show. That was the teachable moment.
Thank you!! I so agree with you, that episode really ticked me off too. Overall I did enjoy the first season, but this season the show feels like it is loosing it’s direction, trying to be entertaining while beating you over the head with their message. And these theme shows – talk about LAZY writing. Enough already.
This episode actually addressed this. Kurt’s dad called out Kurt for not telling him the whole story about Finn – his crush, etc… I’m glad they finally addressed that.
I noticed that too, and as I posted above I don’t know if they wrote that scene because they were aware of that flaw, or if they were completely clueless and had to stumble upon an EW message board comment to realize it.
Me too. That situation was my single biggest criticism of the show – forcing a “moment” out of something in such an unfair way (and I really wanted that “moment” – I loved Burt’s speech – but it just wasn’t right). I was really happy that Finn pointed out his restraining order level behavior and that Burt called out Kurt. Whew. Plus tonight’s show was, just all-around, a much better episode than they’ve had in a while.
@Katja. I agree 100% with your comment. That moment was way to forced it nearly ruined the show for me, and tonight’s episode was a step in the right direction.
I completely agree Katja.
Too little, too late. Glad to hear that Kurt got called out for his deplorable behavior, but at the same time I just can’t watch the show anymore.
To the people who still watch and like the program, good for you. I don’t.
They did adress the Kurt macking on Finn thing last night but I do have to say, even if Kurt was being too pushy with Finn (and I agree he was doing stuff that would praly make most straight high school boys feel weirded out) was that an excuse for finn to refer to his stuff as “faggy”? Cause that’s what it sounds like poeple are saying.
No, you don’t get it. No, Finn’s only mistake in it was using the word “faggy.” He was right about everything else. Like he said in the most recent episode, if he had gone after any girl the way Kurt had been going after him, she would have got a restraining order. He was creepy and manipulative and completely self-serving, and I couldn’t believe that the show was trying to act like it was okay for him to do because he was gay and lonely. It has nothing to do with whether it would have made most high school boys feel weird and everything to do with appropriate behavior. If we were watching a show where a guy manipulated some innocent girl’s mother into marrying his father so they’d be living together just so he could try to hook up with her, nobody would argue that he was a creep. It’s the same thing here, except maybe a little more so, because even that guy wouldn’t be able to come up with a good reason for the two of them to have to share a room.
don’t know what you’re talking about. today was the best episode of the season, HANDS DOWN and one of the best episodes in a very long while. It was funny, sweet, quirky, and it didn’t resort to gimmicks and was not self-congratulatory like much of the second half of season 1. It was a million times better than the trashiness of the Britney episode which you claim to love and in my opinion harkened back to the first half of season 1 when glee was thoroughly original and charming.
don’t know what you’re talking about. today was the best episode of the season, HANDS DOWN and one of the best episodes in a very long while. It was funny, sweet, quirky, and it didn’t resort to gimmicks and was not self-congratulatory like much of the second half of season 1. It was a million times better than the trashiness of the Britney episode which you claim to love and in my opinion harkened back to the first half of season 1 when glee was thoroughly original and charming. :/
sorry for the double post.
or rather triple post.
sorry, don’t know why it posted so many times.
DOUBLE POST ALL THE WAY!
I actually liked this week’s episode a lot. Even my husband, a notorious Glee hater, sat down and watched with me. He laughed a lot, and he said that he thought that the music in this episode was better than in previous episodes because it actually fit into the plot line. I thoroughly enjoyed it all.
Agreed. Tonight’s episode was the first one I enjoyed this season. The plot-line was solid and it didn’t rely on the songs to build the story.
What plotline? Seriously, the show was just a set-up to do a bunch of mediocre, overdone duets.
The music was really great this episode.
No one cares what your silly husband thinks.
Right; you must be a real ball buster, forcing your poor Glee-hating spouse to watch this drivel.
Goodness Jena…are you lonely? Stop being such a b*tch…Rebecca was just making a nice, pleasant comment.
And YOU are no doubt a humorless, self-righteous dodo.
Actually, I would never force my spouse to watch anything. He was in the room, watched a few minutes and sat down. Also, you must be REALLY bored if you tried to use this to start an “interwebs” fight.
I’ve said it all along. Glee is the new Ugly Betty. They are both chewing gum shows. They both quickly lose their flavor. Personally, I never found anything terribly funny about Glee, and that was it’s big downfall for me. I might have endured the syrupy sweet covers of songs I barely liked the first time around IF the show had been as slyly funny as it should have been. It just never measured up on the comedy scale and always stressed the cheesy stereotypical characters. I feel vindicated that more people are now starting to see it.
You could feel vindicated when you stopped obsessively posting on every single tv website and, like, went outside someday. Or when you stop throwing out insults and actually show the ability to appreciate something, which I’ve never noticed.
Then you’re not paying attention.
I resent the comparison to Ugly Betty. Even at its worst, Ugly Betty still had heart and big laughs. I still like Glee but the non-existent character development is making me lose my patience with the show. I’m thoroughly tired of Finn, Rachel, Kurt and especially Schuester. I sticking around to see if Tina finally gets a REAL storyline.
My comparison is that viewers will abandon this show the way they abandoned Ugly Betty.
Completely agree. Glee use to be appointment tv, now I’m like whatever if I catch it I catch.
Never liked glee left High School a long time ago and have no desire to go back lol plus if I wanna hear music I’ll put on my ipod or go see a concert