'Mad Men' season premiere review: 'Stop telling me what to do. I know what you want.'

If the first line of dialogue of the fourth season of Mad Men is meant to state its ongoing theme — “Who is Don Draper?,” asked by an Ad Age interviewer profiling Don — I think it’s Don’s response that really gets us into the season in a more concrete, direct way.

“What do men say when you ask that?” Don snaps back. Couple things here. Creator Matthew Weiner, who wrote this episode, was careful to use the word “men” in that line, because in the mid-1960s period in which Mad Men is set, it wouldn’t occur to Don that a woman would be an executive thus interviewed. Then there’s the tone of the response: Don is irritated by the temerity of the questioner (asking Don about his identity is like telling Batman his jaw looks an awful lot like Bruce Wayne’s), but unlike the Don Draper of the first season of Mad Men, he’s not hesitant anymore about letting that irritation show. Now the figurehead of the nascent firm of Sterling Cooper Draper Pryce — as well as, away from the office, a footloose fellow with no wife waiting for him at home — Don has acquired a new what-the-hell, let-the-chips-fall-where-they-may attitude. He’s still settling into the role, however. He told the Ad Age man, “I’m from the Midwest and was taught it’s not polite to talk about yourself,” even as he’s busy being not-polite to the interviewer.

I like this new Don. I like this likably unlikable man who tells off some prospective clients peddling Jantzen’s bathing suits because he views their fussy primness as both dumb and hypocritical. I like this new Don who goes back to his Greenwich Village apartment and barks at the day-maid for moving his shoeshine kit… and then proceeds to prove he’s just as fussily prim as the pious bumpkins he booted by sitting down right after work and immediately shining his shoes for the next day of butt-kicking.

At work, Don strode down the halls of the new SCDP offices as jazzy, energetic music swelled up on the soundtrack, like a theme song from a TV show of the period — say, The Name Of The Game. Director Phil Abraham allowed us to simply luxuriate in spotting our old favorites (there’s Peggy! there’s Joan! there’s Bert Cooper! there’s Harry Crane with a ridiculous L.A. sunburn!). Weiner was kind to the fans, allowing us to simply enjoy a lot of snazzy dialogue, and to introduce a new character such as Peggy’s new partner-in-copywriting, Joey. Weiner shorthanded the working intimacy that has grown between them since we last saw the show by having them share an in-joke, moaning “John!” and “Marsha!” to each other — a reference to a then-popular routine by Stan Freberg, the great comedian and himself a superb ad-man. (Indeed, an appearance by a Freberg-like character, one of the then-new breed of ad men who liked to satirize the very notion of advertising — here’s one of his spots; that’s Freberg doing the voiceover — would make for a dandy one-off bit.)

Meanwhile, out in Slit-My-Wrists-Ville, Suburbia, Betty was busy not moving out of the house she and Don used to share, and grasping Henry’s arm during Thanksgiving dinner with Henry’s family as though it was a life-raft. Just when we started to feel sorry for Betty’s new fresh hell, she was reflexively cruel to daughter Sally, and Henry’s battle-axe mother, herself no kind maternal figure, levelled her verdict: Betty’s kids “are terrified of her” (true enough) and “she’s a silly woman” (sometimes; but more often, a stubborn, scared one).

These scenes of strain were contrasted all too neatly with a scene of release for Don, who spent his Thanksgiving paying good money to have a hooker come over and go through what we saw was a regular ritual: The pross on top, slapping Don. “Harder,” he said. She uttered words that might also be Matthew Weiner’s words to us, the audience: “Stop telling me what to do, I know what you want.” Thank goodness the show cut away before she hauled out Don’s shoeshine kit…

While we got amusing subplots such as Peggy’s publicity stunt gone wrong, the focus was primarily on The Many Moods of Don Draper, whether he was being the indulgent single-dad letting the kids veg out watching Sky King or playing hardball with Betty, threatening to ask to her to pay rent… and you know things are bad for Betty when Henry sided with Don.

Don’s dinner date mentioned the murder by the Ku Klux Klan of civil rights activist Andrew Goodman in Mississippi as a current event, placing this season in 1964. (So does the closing music, the Nashville Teens’ ’64 cover of “Tobacco Road,” which in turn may be a sly nod to the comment earlier in the episode that Lucky Strikes presently accounts for “71% of our billings.”) As always, Weiner and company resist the most obvious cultural reference — Beatlemania — doubtless saving it for just the right moment later on.

With another series, I’d say that if it can sustain the energy of this premiere, we’ll be off to a great season. But when it comes to analyzing Mad Men, well, I quote Le Draper: “I try and stay away from these kinds of shenanigans.” Mad Men doesn’t play by the rules of setting a tone that is carried on in subsequent episodes. We have to take it a week at a time, just as Don faces one crisis, at work or at what he’d now-laughingly call home, one moment, one scene, one line of dialogue at a time. Take it or leave it.

How’d you take to the debut episode?

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  • Greg

    Betty’s new husband is “Henry” not “Harry.” Otherwise, it was a really enjoyable episode and this was a good write up. I loved seeing Don shot down in the back of a cab. Amazing moment.

    • wakeforce

      As a first time viewer, I can’t speak on the continuity of character some folks gripe about later on, but did the show make me want to return next week? A resounding yes! My favorite woman in a show that featured strong actresses was Don’s date. I loved the fact that she accepted the kiss, but didn’t take it any further, AND knew about current events. Smart and sexy! Hope we see more of her in the future.

      • Lyn

        Ugh, I thought she seemed like a younger, somewhat less brittle version of Betty.

      • julie

        i agree lyn. she did remind me a bit of betty. and from what we know of don, i don’t see this relationship playing out too much. unless she all of a sudden decides to sleep with don he won’t wait around much. i can’t remember exactly what she said, but she mentioned new year’s eve and if they were together? maybe we’ll see a different don this season, one who dates and waits for women but i highly doubt that.

      • artemis

        The writer does say Henry — what post did you read???

      • Susie

        Don’s date was the worst part of the show. Her conceited manner was absurd. Overcompensation for her lack of wit,intellect,and beauty? It seemed completely unrealistic that Don would agree to see her again. The dinner date was excruciating to watch. What happened to mistresses with unique backstories? Mad Men usually has pitch-perfect casting. I don’t know what went horribly wrong here. There is no purpose for this character to ever appear again. On the positive side, I love the new Peggy and more of Joanie this season.

      • @wakeforce

        You wouldn’t be the sister of the actress who plays don’s date, would you? Incredibly weird that you chose her of all the terrific women in this cast.

      • TMB

        I think all of Don’s conceited behavior plays back to the fact that he is masking for his increasing insecureness, a combination of trying to adjust to being an older single guy, trying to keep his true identity closeted and being a man in late 1964 America adjusting to all the changes happening in society.

    • Angela

      I agree Greg! The taxi scene was my favorite….I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone say no to him. Lyn…I also agree…that girl totally favored Betty looks wise…and yes..she was a little less uptight. BUT…she hasn’t been married to Don!!!!

      • Ronnie1

        The actress who played Bethanny is the same one who played the wife of the Fellowship of The Sun preacher on “True Blood”…just saying. She was also Pam’s sister on the wedding eps of “The Office”..

      • TIna from Texas

        The show was damn good. I didnt know Don was into the weirdo sex though. Once I realized that… I flicked my bean uncontrollably for about 15 minutes, then ripped a fart and took a nap.

      • julie

        @Ronnie1: Anna Camp. And she was, of course, meant to contrast with Betty, as well as with the prostitute. And we probably will more of her (we should). Don has been known to pursue women who turn him down, then ruin them.

      • @Tina from TX

        Wow, Tina–how classy!

    • jenn

      The author said Henry. He also referred to HARRY CRANE who is a completely different character than HENRY FRANCIS.

      • mary q contrary

        Chill. They writers make mistakes every now and again, and if they notice it, or see in the comments they’ve done it, they’ll fix it.

    • diddy5

      @Greg..the writer of this article use the name Henry few times..never used name Harry..Where did you see that?

    • HB

      She goes from Don to Henry???? Doesn’t make sense.

      • Danny

        Oh, yes! I couldn’t agree more!
        Dark, misterious, satisfying lover and a good father, all in one!
        Hey, all you Bethanys, Bettys etc, get life!

    • henrietta

      Well, there IS a Harry in the cast (the TV ad guy) – but I was confused by the reference to his being “the only good-natured person in the cast”…so perhaps the reviewer DID mistakenly identify somebody. Because, in my view, neither Henry nor Harry was remotely good-natured. I thought it was interesting to see that Henry is somehow diminished; he appears much smaller (physically) but that could be due to the omnipresence of that harridan of a mother…and certainly he’s got the makings of a true a**hole (particularly with the poor dog). This season promises to be interesting, to say the least.

  • MFA

    Um, Betty’s new husband is called Henry.

    • Sam

      Um, Henry is not Betty’s new husband just yet.

      • julie

        um, yes he is.

      • Anon

        Julie’s right … they’re married. And anyway, a divorced upper middle class mother would NEVER live with a man out of wedlock in 1964… in the suburbs … with children in the house. Never, ever, ever. (And Don would never allow it either!)

  • Tommy

    We’re off to great start!

  • Katie

    I loved this season’s premiere! As always the interaction between Don and Peggy was priceless. He’s always there to “bail” her out of a jam. I’m just worried that Sally Draper is going to become a crazed serial killer with all of the pent-up rage she has just under the surface. Bring on season four!

    • Sam

      When Sally spit out that food at the table in front of everyone she became my new favorite character.

      • Monica

        The girl who plays Sally has always been an important character in Mad Men. She reflects the weirdness of childhood drama so effortlessly.

      • Renee

        Yeah, I really like Sally too. Very interesting character. Poor girl. Betty Draper is the worst mother ever.

      • flaggashland

        Yes, Sally Draper is headed for real trouble. I see her in season 4 or 5 as part of a Manson part clan or some mommy killer.
        I thought the show got off to a good start. I have watched since the very first episode and love the whole show. And to think it’s not on HBO! Congrats…

      • kaydub

        sally has been compelling for a few seasons. a great little actress. i see sally as a mini-she-do and think she could grow up to be a badass. (emotional problems too of course!)

    • Maggie May

      I picture Sally growing up to join the Manson family!

      • mc

        i think so too! at least she’ll go to Woodstock

      • bb

        They should do a 5 year FF next season (ala Desperate Houswives)so we can see how Sally is as a teenager. That would be priceless!

    • Jim

      I’ll bet Sally grows up to be my mother!

      • DK

        This was the funniest comment I’ve read all year anywhere on the inter-webs.

      • J

        I agree. Jim, you are obviously a champion commenter. #forthewin

      • flaggashland

        that is a classic comment and boy oh boy can I relate!

      • UsualSuspects

        We must be related Jim. Betty Draper had nothin on my mother! I was at Woodstock at age 15, lol

  • Susan

    I know Bert said their offices were embarrassingly small, but they looked surprisingly big to me after less than a year. Don looked completely exhausted. And for a man who made $500,000 when they original sold Sterling Cooper—about 3 or 4 million in today’s dollars—he’s sure living in a dump. That just didn’t ring true. Guys like that divorced their wives and lived very good lives. Why wouldn’t women still be throwing themselves at such a successful man?

    • l1986chin@yahoo.com

      I would imagine they spent money on their fancy new office. Along with continuing to pay for the mortage and new apartment.

    • James

      With respect to the apartment he’s living in, the Draper character has never been overly concerned with appearances when it comes to material things. He always looks good, that’s a given, but it always comes off as a natural occurrence for Don. He never pursued extra-marital affairs based solely on looks (not to call women a material thing…it’s fair to say that in Mad Men, however, they often are used in that way), and has never shown interest in spending his money on the flashy toy or expensive car (for example, signing off the $5000 bonus to his mistress in season 1). It’s also possible that, based on his comment to Henry, he truly believes he will be moving back to suburbia with his family soon enough, so he isn’t concerned with his current apartment.
      And with respect to women throwing themselves at him, I don’t think we were exactly told that he ISN’T having that happen. Given that Roger was attempting to set him up on a date, it seemed more like Don had been choosing to live a solitary life (save for the hooker visit here or there), not interested in engaging in any relationships.
      Great first episode, can’t wait for next week!

      • bob

        Uh…DOn is materialistic. Remember the Cadillac he purchased?

      • James

        Yep, I remember it. I also remember him never getting much of a kick out of it. Roger was always more interested in the Cadillac than Don was.

      • amber liu

        I don’t think Don wants Betty back. He made that snide remark to Henry, but more for Betty’s sake I think, implying that she’s a cold fish who won’t be able to keep a man happy anyway.

        Believe me, nobody thinks this is going to last. Great line, even if I’m paraphrasing.

    • evie

      The apartment is one of the many reflections of Don’s self-loathing in the episode. Not pretty to watch. There is also something to be said about Don losing his invincibility. Without the confidence he had that he had the world in the palm of his hand, he is a bit at sea.

      • Ruthy Hope

        I definitely agree that the dreariness of his apartment is supposed to be a reflection of his mood this season. Also, his insistence that the shoeshine kit be left in the center of the floor indicates that he is aware of this fact.

    • Elizabeth

      I don’t think people were as obsessed with flaunting their money as they are these days. Besides, for someone who grew up as dirt poor as Don did, I’m not surprised by it either. He’s all about his job, not about what people see of his private life.

    • Marcos

      I agree that the office itself looks like a well established business for what is essentially a start up, but they all have money to back it. Bert Cooper’s office is the only one that is probably smaller. His old office was huge. Generally it just looks more like a narrow set of hallways versus a big open NYC office. They did say they are in the Time Life building which is not a bad building to be in.

      As far as Don’s apartment, in the beginning of the episode he is obviously meeting with his lawyer and to be floating a house payment in Westchester, supporting your kids and paying for an apartment, the apartment was not going to be glamorous. I did find it strange though that he has a housekeeper for the apartment that makes him dinner but shines his own shoes? they didnt have guys/kids on the street shining shoes? Maybe his militarty experience has something to do with shining your own shoes, but what would it have cost to get your shoes shined in 1964? 50 cents?

      • Ronnie1

        My younger bro was in the Navy in the early ’80s…he STILL shines his own shoes and boots! AND presses his own pants, with a bit of a sharp crease on the legs…

      • Colieharsha

        My dad, like Don, got to a point where he could have had someone shine his shoes for him. However, he always did it himself. It’s an army thing and something to do while watching TV. Keeping the mind busy so that you don’t have to think about life’s issues.

      • Jack

        Actually shining your shoes was something we all did in the 60’s. I was a kid but you always had your shoes nice and shiny. Your mom would make sure you did.

        Men don’t seem to know much about being a “gent” these days.

      • nancy

        Grew up in the 60’s. My Dad had that shoe shine kit with all the brushes and tins of polish—and would shine while watchin’ TV. Matt nails all the details! Love this show.

    • J

      Matthew Weiner said that women were appalled by the apartment, while men said nothing. I think it’s fitting — the Village was the frontier at that time, a place where all the cutting edge people lived.

      • UsualSuspects

        Very true!

      • Tina

        Mad Men is amazingly accurate. The endless ashtrays, the booze, the fashions, the architecture, the way children (and sometimes women)are of seemingly little value. It’s a visual and conceptual trip for those of us who grew up then.

  • Sam

    Way more Joan and way less Betty please.

    • Madd

      Yes. I mean, Joanie was at least there, but I wanted more! Is her loser husband dead? Please say yes.

      • Jack

        That was funny ! ;)

    • Emily

      Amen.

  • Madd

    I can’t be the only one who gagged when Betty and Henry started making out.

    • Christa

      I looked away. Too much like my parents.

    • Wilson

      I was halfway hoping that when Don came back he was gonna find them in the car dead from carbon monoxide poisoning. It would definitely shake things up O.o

      • Angie

        I thought the same thing!

      • Zac

        LOL, i thought the exact same thing. I was like “whoa, are they just literally going to kill that subplot??” but then reason kicked in. that was certainly intentional in my opinion.

      • paulbark

        And I thought I was the only one who had that weird thought!

      • Kacey

        I looked right at my husband & gasped when Don walked in the door & no one was there. I said “they are dead in the car”! And was it common to push off your babies on the day help?

      • kim in kentucky

        OMG – glad I wasn’t the only person to think that!

      • Skipper

        I’m suprised at how many of us thought (maybe even hoped a little) the same thing!

      • JohnK

        I thought the same thing, too! Seemed like a completely logical “Mad Men” plot thing to expect. In a way I was sad that Betty wasn’t dead. :(

      • Val

        I didn’t just think it, I openly hoped it. I can’t *stand* the Betty Draper character. She’s so childish and self-centered. I started hating her in the first season when she looked at the family portraits and said, “I hate that one. Sally is fat.” What a BITCH. And spoiled, too!

      • Colieharsha

        Me too!

      • abhardy

        Me too!!! Betty would deserve that!! I’m telling you, I’m looking for a doctor to prescribe Lithium or some other mood-altering drug for poor Sally. Her life does not look good! Is Don going to be able to rescue her, even if he couldn’t save himself?

      • intownwriter

        OMGosh! I had exactly the same thought. And that they would be discovered – naked and wrapped in each others’ arms – by poor Sally.

      • kaydub

        LOL!!! that would be a different show. i hate betty too but i am compelled to watch. she is very well-drawn and real.

      • Jim L

        I’m sure all this was intentional: the making out in the car, potentially dying, not being there when Don brings the kids back.

    • Janey

      You weren’t the only one!

      • Paul

        Ditto – looks like a lot of people thought that

      • Matt

        I thought the exact same thing… look at how we are conditioned to think… empty house, quiet background, someone has to be dead.

  • veronica

    Wonderful episode and great points, Ken. Still taking it all in, but some initial thoughts:
    *Love the openness and light of the new SCDP offices, which make the old one seem dark by comparison.
    *Greatly enjoyed Don telling off the Jantzen folks (and loved the way his suggested ad – in both form and content – fit the changing times so well).
    *Henry & Betty’s interactions seemed realistic – it’s not all honeymoon-y now that they’re together together.
    *Finally figured out that the actress that plays Don’s date was ‘Sarah Newlin’ on ‘True Blood’ (the wife of the Fellowship of the Sun preacher). Liked that she wasn’t some total ditz, even if the date still reflected the different gender norms of that time. “I know that game” – as she turned him down in the taxi, and his glint of appreciation – and perhaps a bit of intrigue – at that response.
    *I think the main thing that impressed me was that the characters and settings have changed slightly over this nine-month period and the episode *shows* us their changes, yet still stays true to who they are. It wasn’t just cosmetic or aesthetic differences, but differences in mood, in emotion, in levels of confidence, in roles at work or home that were evident through the interactions to which we were privy. That’s a rare feat – making the viewer feel as if she were dropped down into the show’s world at another time several months into the future, just there observing.
    *And Don (Jon Hamm) continues to demonstrate thoughtlessness and self-centeredness and still make me root for him all the way – riveting.

    • Sherrie

      I was wondering if anyone else recognized “True Blood’s” Sarah Newlin as Don’s dinner date. She looked great in the sixties era regalia, and I’m glad to see Anna Camp in a role with some smarts.

      • harpie

        Every show on TV needs more Anna Camp!

      • Val

        Agreed. I love her, and I’d be so happy if she became a regular!

      • Ronnie1

        Like I said in another comment…she also played Pam’s sister in “The Office”, in the wedding eps…great actress!

      • Josh

        Ugh–she’s fat-faced and hideous!

    • Topanga

      Thanks for the True Blood info – thought I was going to have to IMDB this morning, I just couldn’t place her!

  • Denise Cantrall

    Don may be spiraling out of control. Betty is in her home-made hell. Sally is becoming anorexic. Tobacco Rode pounding at the end was not sly but intentional. Mad Men is FANTASTIC!

    • RtG

      Sally’s just losing her baby fat. She’s only 11 years old.

      • Renee

        I don’t know RtG. I suspect they’re doing something like anorexia with Sally’s character. Her neuroses are definitely going to manifest themselves in some very dark ways.

      • artemis

        Anorexia wasn’t really identified and common knowledge in 1964, but having been a slightly younger kid during this time, I recall most kids would act out at the table. It was the family ‘stage’. My brother and I always got fussy at the table – got us out being force-fed food we didn’t like.

      • Josh

        Just because you say “anorexia wasn’t really identified” doesn’t mean people didn’t have eating disorders. This is definitely the direction they’re heading in with Salley. And do you really think kids only acted out at the table in the 60s–Sheesh!

    • Marian Webster

      Sly always has a definite element of the intentional to it.

  • Jeff

    I just don’t see a guy like Henry Francis living in another man’s house. Wasn’t he like a congressman or something?

    • mc

      i don’t think Betty and Henry are married. he made that comment about her not looking for another place to live. doesn’t he have a house?

      • Kristine

        She was wearing a ring on her wedding ring finger though.

      • Kellie

        Didn’t they elope at the end of the last episode?

      • julie

        @kellie- they ran off to reno so betty could get a quickie divorce at the end of the last episode. whether they married there or not wasn’t stated but they are married. when henry’s mother was talking to him about how the kids are terrified of betty she said i know why you’re with her (or something along those lines) but you didn’t have to marry her to get it.

      • artemis

        Did people not watch closely? Henry’s mother chastised him for marrying her. AND, it was unacceptable to live together like that in 1964 (ESPECIALLY in upscale suburbia).

      • Mojo Mom

        I was confused, too, about whether Henry and Betty were actually married. Makes sense that they were, but they didn’t seem it…he is super creepy but I guess she deserves him!

      • JoanJett

        I’ve read several boards about Mad Men to see what people thought about this episode, and this is the only board I have come across where there are posters saying, “I don’t think Betty and Henry are married.” You folks are writing your opinions here, often quite insightful ones, yet you missed one very large, straight-up element that was clearly accounted for in the script. Betty and Henry ARE MARRIED. How did you miss that yet become involved in this episode enough to want to come to a board and express an opinion? Very perplexing. I guess we can’t catch everything. Anyway, Betty and Henry are married. It was clearly stated.

  • Peggy

    I’m glad to know the creator wrote this episode, otherwise I would be worried. It seemed like a different show to me, I felt strangely disoriented. Maybe the new office – that Don and Betty aren’t together- that Peggy has a sidekick we have never met, etc. Don seemed so cranky and – whoa! he made some mistakes and got shot down for it. All new. Hopefully the start of a fascinating season, once I get used to it.

    • James

      I agree that it’s nice to know the show was intentionally done that way. It definitely felt very distinct from the old setting…you can almost feel the 70’s lurking just outside the shot.

      • Um…

        The seventies are 6 years away.

      • Saul

        1964 was the cusp of a cultural tsunami that changed everything forever. Having lived through that time as a young adult I would say in retrospect that there was nothing at that time that would give any inkling of what the ’70s might be like.

      • James

        Um….Be a jerk about it. Yeah I know what year the show is based in, buddy. I think you can distinctly feel *something* coming, a lot of change on the horizon. It’s a TV show, don’t be rude.

  • Wilson

    I have always really enjoyed the Mad Men slow burning buildup over the season but this is the first time I’ve seen it live, (I caught up with DVDs last year) and honestly, it doesn’t hit me like it did when I had all the episodes together…it’s not quite enough to keep me enthralled.

    • Nix

      I find this true about most TV shows these days, aside from semi-brainless stuff designed for syndication. Always works better on the disc.

    • samuel

      That is because Mad Men is so perfectly written the episodes dovetail into a complete epic movie

  • Stefon’s lover

    *Bib*

  • GSTD

    Fabulous, somewhat inspiring ending. Don pulls himself off the floor (hopefully out from under the hooker), reloads, and gets back down to serious business to the sounds of “Tobacco Road”. Hope he(and Matt Weiner)know he’s “the reason we’re all here”.(Personal aside: having gone to Wesleyan, I could have told him not to waste his time with a Holyoke gymnast.) Got me pumped up. You go Boy!!

  • derek

    The new season is off to a great start. Don is even more of a jerk which I didn’t think was possible. Kind of wondering if we’ll be seeing some of the guys like Sal and Ken again. Also, Betty’s new man is Henry not Harry.

    • RtG

      Yes, where’s Sal?! Bring back Sal!

      • julie

        from what i’ve read since sal was fired and over the summer, there are no plans to bring sal back. which stinks…who knows, maybe they’ll suprise us and he’ll show up but seeing as lucky strike is their biggest client, that probably won’t be happening anytime soon.

      • Jack

        “Sal” played beautifully by Bryan Batt was on “The View” last week and said “Sal” wasn’t dead but wouldn’t elaborate. He said he couldn’t. So YAYYYYYYYYYY !

    • Renee

      Yeah, that’s right! I’m disappointed about Ken (as well as Sal). I liked him. Too bad they didn’t take him with them… which is something I don’t fully understand actually. I always thought there was some animosity between Don and Pete, so why would they take Pete with them to the new company? Unless Pete blackmailed him for what he knows about Don’s past… but we didn’t see that.

      • JLI

        Pete had the right amount of clients that would follow him. it wasn’t because they liked him.

      • JoanJett

        I am not going to say that we won’t see an episode with a Sal spotting, but despite how many of us adored Sal and he was so wonderfully portrayed by Bryan Batt, the creator has made it clear that Sal was fired, he is gone and that is final. Although they, too, loved his character, they could not stay true to the culture and the times if they had not made the painful cut they made. It needed to feel unfair. It needed to feel wrong. It needed to hurt us to lose a friend. That is EXACTLY the reality of the 1960s and Mad Men is, first and foremost, telling the story of the 60s accurately, even when it hurts.

    • kks

      they are showing ken cosgrove in a bunch of upcoming episodes of mad men on imdb…! yay!

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