The final 'Lost' review: sweet, fun, Christian

Lost went out in a manner that was refreshingly not like that of so many dramas, which tend to become more dramatic, serious, and bleak in an effort to prove their ultimate profundity. Instead, the long Lost last night was a combination of a greatest-hits album and a lively Sunday-school lesson. Everyone was forgiven; everyone smiled. If The Mary Tyler Moore Show hadn’t done it first, I suspect that the Lost producers would have had every member assembled in the final scene gather in a group hug.

(By the way, by “final Lost review,” I don’t mean the final one on this website, of course. Rest assured Jeff Jensen will be along with his full, definitive Doc Jensen exegesis later today.)

If there was any big surprise last night, it was how overtly Christian in its imagery and message the series proved to be. Its heavily underscored lesson was that everyone was forgiven — that word was used over and over. And the water at the Magic Glowing Source was used for the purposes of transubstantiation: “Drink this,” Jack was told upon being handed water, a phrase later repeated when Jack gave water to Hugo. Given the liquid’s effect particularly on Jack, the dialogue might just as well have quoted directly from a Communion service: “Drink this, for this is my body which is given unto you. Do this, in remembrance of me.”

For if there was one thing we can probably all agree upon, in the end, Jack Shephard was a Christ figure whose sacrifice saved many other people. The imagery could not have been more specific: Jack’s questioning and obeying of his father; his leadership of a small group of disciples; his final ascension (in TV terms, in a glowing white light). Even the piercing of his side by Locke/Man In Black was in the part of his body where Christ was speared while in agony on the crucifying cross.

But for most of its long but rarely boring length, the final Lost did not huff and puff and labor toward a heavy metaphorical conclusion. Instead, it was, well, pretty delightful, full of reunions that were both emotional and funny (how about that re-meet-cute between Sawyer and Juliet at the vending machine?). There were sweet little jokes, such as when, 90 minutes into a two-and-a-half-hour show, someone said, “It sure don’t feel like it’s over.” I don’t know how it’ll play with hardcore Losties, but I was glad to see a fan favorite such as Hurley not only avoid great suffering, but become the most important assistant in Jack’s glorification. Hurley was always the most lovable character in Lost, and it turned out that if he represented anything, it was Love itself.

The metaphor that had been used weeks earlier, about the cork in a wine bottle that kept evil from escaping — that was dramatized well, when Desmond first uncorked the island and it did indeed look as though Evil had been loosed upon the island world. Then it had to be, er, re-corked by Jack, to refute Evil’s pronouncement that “you died for nothing.” Quite the opposite: Jack died so that everyone could gather in the Church of the Sideways and have a splendid wrap-party of the soul.

Putting it in a TV-critic’s historical context: Was this an all-time great finale? I wouldn’t say so. The endings for Newhart, the aforementioned Mary Tyler Moore Show, perhaps M*A*S*H, St. Elsewhere, and The Fugitive all ended more decisively, with a more precise snap. But it was a better finale than an awful lot of other, more contemporary Highly Esteemed Dramas and Sitcoms. And as a way to bring this vast fantasy to an end, Lost had a finale that suited our troubled times: It was comforting, reassuring. It even had a dog that made me, for one, wipe away a tear.

What do you think?

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  • Amanda

    Fantastic episode. I loved that as obvious as it ended up being, no one could have predicted it. I am fully satisfied.

    • Celia

      I agree. People have been theorizing this ending for a long time and most of them were right on the mark. But I still bawled like a big, fat baby. I can’t believe it’s over. I thought it was a brilliant end to brilliant series…but I still kind of want more.

      • ryan

        people have theorized that the whole thing was purgetory when in reality it was only the flash sidewasy.. which would have been inpossible to know from the beginning cause it didnt happen till the the sixth season

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      • amj

        I loved the ending. And, I bawled as well. And, yes of course it is overtly Christian afterall Jack’s dad’s name is Christian Shephard for goodness sake. Even that was laughed at by a character in the show (wasn’t it Kate). As for great finales, this is one of them and Ken, you forgot one. What about Six Feet Under. One of the greatest finales ever. The fade to white instead of fade to black was brilliant and was the perfect cap to the show!

      • Bob

        Although the Jack character can be seen as a Christian-esque character, I’m making the assumption that there is a version of this characterization in other faiths and perhaps it was an easter egg, but when Jack is talking to his father at the end, there is a stained glass window behind them that appeared to me to have symbols from various faiths… anyone else catch that?

      • kellybelly

        1.Why didn’t Jack use the “magic words” over the water before he gave it to Hurley as the new caretaker?
        (Both Mother and Jacob did the magic words)
        -I wasn’t sure if it was an oversight or it meant something.

        2. Vincent looked different.I wasn’t sure if Jack had time-traveled, cause the dog looked way younger.

        3. Not a great finale. I was glad for the reunions. But, by saying everyone is together after they die. Well, who didn’t already think that? Yea, the show was character driven, but the ending just seemed kinda a cop out. The whole show was about the journey. And how those relationships were formed. The journey informed everything they did. All their choices and their loves. So, to not to have fully addressed the circumstances which informed everything about them (which would make them want to be together in the afterlife)….I think did a disservice to the show.
        So, good ending, but not a great finale. And I agree that this will go down as a “seinfield” type finale. As opposed to the greats of the past.

      • Chandler

        I saw that too Bob. I commented on it to my wife as we were watching the show because the “logo” “icon” “symbol” what-have-you in the lower left corner was a wagon-wheel. Very reminicent of the “donkey-wheel” that was turned on the island.

      • HATED IT

        Yes, it was emotional,
and yes I cried a few times.
        And yes, I understand that this season they were in purgatory,
 and yes, i understand that what happened on the island was real”

        I do not need everything spoon fed for me, and I do not need answers to every question. I don’t even need answers to MOST questions. But I did deserve answers to the BIG questions. I mean, I am not demanding answers to minor questions about polar bears or Walt’s powers or the failed pregnancies on the island. I understand, and agree, that not everything needs to be neatly explained.

        But after six years, I actually DO feel entitled to answers to questions about the BASIC PREMISE of the show. The writers built a show around certain basic premises, and then after six years, they did not answer those questions.

        Just because they provided answers about the events of THIS season does not let the writers off the hook from providing answers about the show overall.

        What was the island? What were its powers? How did it move? How did it heal people? How did Jacob/the island “bring” people to the island? How did so many of these characters meet each other, and have their lives intersect over and over again, before they crashed?

        All of the BASIC questions, the CENTRAL questions, that we wanted answered for the past six years were just ignored, and instead we were given answers only to the questions from THIS season.

        TOTAL COP-OUT!!!!

      • Regan

        The ending to Battlestar Galactica suddenly feels pretty ingenious now doesn’t it?

        My theory: Everyone who guessed early on that the plane crash and life on the island was purgatory were right on the mark. The fact that so many saw this coming miles away made the writers nervous, and so they just flipped it around a bit and voila – you’ve got yourself a whole new but somewhat similar ending.

      • Crystal

        The island was not purgatory. The flash sideways was.

      • shawshank

        @ Bob: Are you joking? Is there anyone who DIDN’T notice that stained glass window. I liked all the subtler sacramentals scattered around the room.

      • schadha

        Well I think that the producers left it ambiguous in certain aspects on purpose…why? Obviously a “LOST: THE MOVIE” has to be in the works! Hopefully in it they will explain exactly at which point did these characters “pass on” and who got to “crossover” (a bit van Praagish-ish), which then begs the question, “If the island was real, then why were there souls that had passed on but not crossed over still wandering there?” Widmore didn’t look too pleased on Jimmy Kimmel with the kiss-off of his character; hopefully the movie intends to give a more respectable treatment of his character and set him a sail on the cross-over boat too.

        And what was the flash forward; was it the time when the souls of the main characters were in limbo and couldn’t crossover so they, meaning the souls, had to go back to the island to finish unfinished business there so they could then crossover in a perfect after-world;lo and behold, the sideways world!

        For isn’t that the reason souls get held up from crossing over – when they need to tend to unfinished business. For example, Jack needing to have his father’s funeral, Charlie maybe needing to have a final concert or be there for Claire when her baby gets born, Kate needing to be a mother, Sawyer wanting to turn his life a 180, Locke wanting to walk, Faraday wanting legitimate recognition as his father’s son, and on and on and on.

        But what unfinished business could they’ve had on the island? To get a sense of purpose for crashing there? That would then mean that some characters on the island were their spirit self helping the still living ones, who could see them (I see dead people :)), circumvent discovery of that all-important pocket of electro-magnetic field. That way they (the producers) could touch upon the possibility of time travel without needing to show it actually having manifested in reality.

        Hey! I just blueprinted the script for the movie. Calling Lindeloff and Cuse…are you hiring?!? Can anyone hear me? Is this thing on???? :]

      • ohmyhumblepie

        @Hated It: ditto, absolutely agree!!!!!

      • AJ

        Hated It: You pretty much sum up my feelings/thoughts, except I wouldn’t go as far to say I “hated” it. I am completely open to the “character-driven” beginning and end to the show. But I believed the Island to be one of the characters.

      • spaceaudiobooks

        While it looked like the characters were in a Christian Church, the idea of souls moving on together to another life has more in common with Eastern philosophy.

      • Baco Noir

        Yes, Bob, I did too. Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu and another I didn’t recognize to represent all the major faiths. Surprised Doc J didn’t comment on it, but he couldn’t catch everything.

    • The Oven

      Not all were forgiven. Michael remained LOST on the island…

      • Johnny

        Exactly. Why were Charlie and Sun forgiven for their murders of Ethan and that “Others” woman and not Michael?

      • Julie

        I’m not sure that Michael wasn’t forgiven, so much as he wasn’t ready to move on. That could mean any number of things. Maybe he wasn’t ready for absolution yet. Maybe he didn’t want it. Probably the same reason Ana Lucia wasn’t ready and why we never saw Eko.

      • bbean

        Why didn’t Ben join them in the Church?

      • B-

        Think of it like The Matrix. Michael is still plugged in and not ready to move on. Ben didn’t want to go, but was that because he was scared he would go to hell instead?

      • Peter

        Ben had unfinished business to take care of before he could move on with the rest of them (ie: Danielle and Alex)

      • jailyss

        Ben said he still had some stuff he was working out. I think he wasn’t full able to forgive himself and bring about his full redemption. So he chose to stay in that sideways world of in between until he felt ready to move on. Plus like Eloise maybe he couldn’t bear leaving Alex again, atleast not yet.

      • boocat

        Ben wasn’t either. Remember he was still outside the church when the show ended.

      • mary q contrary

        I agree that Michael wasn’t ready to move on, probably because Walt had not died yet, or because he chose not to move on with the group, because of what he had done. Remember what Desmond said about Ana Lucia to Hurley, that she wasn’t ready yet. I think that was an appropriate way to explain why some people (Mr. Eko, Michael, Ana Lucia, etc.) weren’t there for the reunion.

      • nykolus

        i’m sorry, but what i can’t figure out is why penny was there. did i miss something???

      • sdm

        Maybe Michael already moved on.

      • BS LeBlanc

        I think Ben was partly feeling like he didn’t belong because of everything he had done to the people in the church, but mainly I think he was waiting for Alex

      • Sharon Mia Opinionstein

        Penny, as a human being, dies at some point. Maybe when she’s 80. There is no NOW in this world as per Christian. Hurley, Ben, Sawyer, Kate, Des, Claire, Penny — they may have lived long lives thereafter, but the defining moment in their lives was that time they were together on the island. Thus, they all meet at the time-is-not-linear “place”. Christian told Jack he is here because this is the place he mattered most, with the people that mattered most to him. They may each individually have other “churches” based on other crucial life moments. But this was Jack’s “place”.

      • Steph

        To answer the “why was penny there” question… remember what Christan Shepard told Jack at the end… all of those people are REAL and all of those people have died… either before or AFTER you. So, my assumption was that Penny died at SOME POINT in the future that was not captured by the show. “Everybody dies at some point” Christian states. Penny was significant the entire show. She was Desmond’s driving force…. his FOCUS, his CENTER (especially during his time traveling issues)

      • amj

        To Jhonny: Michael killed his friends for a very selfish purpose. Charlie and Sun killed to protect themselves and their friends. Very different. Michael is not forgiven because what he did was very tragic and very selfish and very traitorous. Much like Judas.

      • amj

        oops’s johnny not jhonny..typo…I apologize. Hope I am forgiven….tehehe

      • amj

        I agree..I too wondered why Penny was there. I posed the same question to my Lostie friends.

      • Jamie

        Ben didn’t join them in the church because he’s still on the island…he’s Hurley’s “Number 2″ and took over for him when Hurley eventually died.

      • Al

        I think this was Jack’s personal limbo- that’s why Miles, Frank, Micheal, Walt and others weren’t in the church, they weren’t important to Jack. Libby and Juliet and Penny were there to make people that were important to Jack happy.

      • SuzyQ

        Christian told Jack: There is no “now” anymore. And Kate told Jack how much she had missed him. So she dies later, but they’re meeting in the non-now because time is no longer relevant. Or linear. Which is why Penny was there too. But my question is: what was the wreckage on the beach in the final scene? The Oceanic wreckage, or was it the Ajira plane, and they all died?

      • kbs

        Michael was the only one of the Losties to betray his friends. Everyone else just hurt the others but none of their own.

      • waya

        I was wondering about Michael, but yeah. . his soul was left wandering the island. Forgot about that one.

      • Rebekkah

        Michael said on Jimmy Kimmel that he was stuck wondering the island.

        Perhaps its that Michael never sought redemption?

        Why didn’t Ana Lucia go with them?

      • tty

        You guys are forgetting one thing about Michael being stuck on the island. Hurley was put in charge, and he was free to make his own rules about what went on with the island. And Hurley seemed pretty sympathetic of Michael’s plight when he encountered him several weeks back.

      • Sue

        Michael could be compared to Judas. He betrayed his friends. Maybe that was the unforgivable sin in Lost. He will probably move on, but chose not to move on with them at the time. Ana Lucia in the sideways world took a bribe, so she was still stuck in her unredemptive state. They chose to move on, and those left behind still had to find their redemption so they could go on the next phase of their spirtual journey.

      • Caryn

        I think Penny was in the church because the island is what eventually brought Penny and Desmond together and was a defining moment in their lives.

      • elizabeth

        Wonderful comments, thank you. About the plane wreckage, I interpreted that as “look at this wreckage, how could ANYONE actually survive this?” Which (for me at least) suddenly made everything that happened on the island and off understandable. (Flashbacks were pre-crash, during life, flashfowards were the quest, flashsideways were the protection of souls. Just my interpretation.)

      • Kevin from Philly

        Michael might not be going to the same place as Jack and the rest, if you catch my drift.

      • Amy

        Yeah, that’s a little weird. I wonder why Michael and Walt didn’t come back, but I’m sure there’s a good reason for it. I would’ve liked some more closure on their storyline, but really, I don’t feel like nitpicking. I feel like lots of the “questions” are kinda minor if you just look at the big picture/themes.

        But they wanted something that would spark discussion, and it seems like they got it.

      • Jana

        Kellybelly noticed that Vincent looked different, younger. There were 2 different dogs that played Vincent. The first was a female and the second was a male. By the way the name Vincent is Latin and means prevailing or to conquer.

    • Hutchy

      I must admit, I’m a 35 year old married guy and it even got a little dusty in the house for me during the Sun and Jin “realization”. And the Sawyer/Juliet reuniting.

      • Brian C.

        What does your age and being married have to do with your ability to have emotions? You’re an idiot.

      • greg

        He is afraid that showing emotion would reveal his true identity, thus he ‘grew up’ and married a woman.


        @Brian C. – He said his age because some people in our society do not think it’s OK or acceptable for a grown man to show his emotions. So he was conveying how powerful this finale was to him being a grown man.

        You should have known this, you’re the idiot, stupid.

      • Smackie

        Thank you

      • mary q contrary

        Gosh, guys, I think he was just trying to say that the finale was emotional no matter what your age or hormone balance. Way to show your true colors, and go the coward’s way by talking sh*t about someone online, and for no good reason, either. Shame on you.

      • Smackie

        I was backing up icstoopid for defending Hutchy over Brian C’s. poor taste comments. Get a clue.

      • wakeforce

        Well, actually he’s saying he’s not a woman and not gay, but for him the show was very emotional, which makes Brian C. correct in asking the question.

      • Smackie

        Wrong. Read the response from icstoopid, which I simply agreed with, & realize where he was coming from in the first place. Brian should have been able to figure that out. He chose to insult instead.

      • dusty bottoms

        i’ve watched lost for 6 years/seasons – this is exactly the first time it made me tear up.

        and for the argumentative record, i’m 36, male, married with two kids. i enjoy playing golf, surfing and time with my family when they listen to what i tell them to do.

      • graciegirl

        What @marycontrary said. My God, get a grip!!

      • For Brian C

        No I believe your the idiot. You contributed nothing but an unnecessary insult. So I’ll make that kind of contribution as well. You’re an @sshole…hows that work for you?

      • Lostie

        “You’re an idiot.”
        “You contributed nothing but an unnecessary insult.”


      • bex

        brian c- no need to call anyone an idiot. our society doesn’t exactly embrace men to be open with their feelings. hutchy, glad you were honest here.

      • Drew

        Brain C.

        I was having a really nice time reading the comments and your needless insult just ruined the experience.

    • steve

      Dumbest ending ever. The writers were obviously overpaid and came up with the lowest common denominator of conclusion possible. High school students could’ve come up with something better than that. I suppose the end was great for the shallow and ADD-stricken…

      • BG 17

        I have to admit that I am feeling disappointed as well. It seems like the writers felt that sticking to the sci-fi themes that they had been slowly developing would have been too risky and thought that going spiritual was safer. The acting was top notch, the characterizations rang true, but the end result left a whole lot of its original potential wasted.

      • jailyss

        This show always had a religious undertone… from day one. The sci was part of that spiritual mysticism.

      • Yes

        Get out all the hate one last time…You don’t get it… So what about you? If you don’t get THAT – my reaction is like Jacob’s reaction to Ben’s whining…

      • mac

        So why don’t you go ahead and write something that will dazzle us all and prove that these writers were overpaid. You no talent, arrogant, sniveling, little jacka$$.

      • Malice

        I can’t believe so many people were satisfied with this ending! This was genuinely the lousiest series finale ever. The argument that this wasn’t a show about mysteries — that it was about the characters — is a total cop-out. The mysteries informed so many of the characters’ peculiar motivations along the way and NONE of that was resolved. The showrunners offered NOTHING. And the twist that the “sideways” narrative was some imaginary purgatory scenario was as bad as if they’d explained it away as a dream. I realize that a lot of people are going to tirelessly defend this episode and series, perhaps to justify the time investment, but I made the same time investment and I am completely amazed at how profoundly this series has failed.

      • Smackie

        The writers didn’t “come up” with this idea anytime recently. They have said from the start that they had the idea for how the show would end. This was the plan from the start. Christian Sheppard(Shepherd) was there from the start. I just can’t believe I never read anything anywhere that picked up on that.

      • dazed_and_light

        If you are a Man (person) of science, this episode was probably a disappointment. If you are a Man-of-Faith, you loved this. I am a person of Faith.

      • me

        @steve and @Malice.

        When can we expect to read your scripts for the ending to Lost? You should be able to write a script in three weeks. Please post a link to your script for the ending of Lost because I definitely want to read them especially if they are better than the script written by Damon and Carlton which I thought was perfect.

      • amj

        Smackie..I wouldn’t say that no one picked up on Christian Shephard being the Shephard in the show. I think many of us picked up on that in season one. I always called for a post-death purgatory redemption story. It made sense to me. It was about enlightenment, forgiveness and moving on once it was accomplished. It was about being a better person and reaching personal growth. All of these characters were highly damaged and emotionally scarred so they needed to work through things prior to moving on to a better place. Beautiful ending in my opinion!

      • Corey

        @dazed: I’m an Atheist… and I loved the ending. It’s a fictional show, not a biographical account of life and what happens when you die. Lollll.

      • Smackie

        amj, I just said I was surprised I never read anything about that. I certainly expect many people did pick up on the connection, but I didn’t, & never read anything that anyone else did, so it just hit me like a block in the head last night.

      • MEL

        @Malice: I agree one hundred percent. The Sideways world basically WAS a dream: the collective dream of a group of dead people. “It’s all a metaphysical construct of their collective imaginations! The end!” The only real resolution was with the MIB. Many important mysteries brought up in the story weren’t answered. I don’t expect “every little thing” to be answered (at this point, it really doesn’t matter how or why Walt was wet and talking backwards when he appears to Shannon), but I do expect answers the big questions. Like, what the boop is the Light? Is it really containing evil manifest, or is it somehow a gate into the afterlife that must remained sealed (since we see in the end Christian opening the doors to a bright light, supposedly the afterlife)? Is it physics, magic, or an amalgamation of both? How does the electromagnetism contribute to both the scientific aspects of time-travel and yet the seemingly magical qualities of granting immortality and shape-shifting abilities? We’ll never know. It’s only the driving force of the entire milieu, but apparently it isn’t important enough to warrant one last revelation.

        Good storytelling is like neat knitting. The neat knitter is in complete control at all times, and every stitch fulfills an important purpose in constructing a complete and whole sweater. Every thread begins and ends somewhere. It’s a difficult and tedious process, but the result is a clean and well-formed sweater (/story, metaphorically). A poor knitter (/storyteller) will leave loose threads hanging everywhere, the stitches will seem to wander to random directions with no real purpose. It’s easy, and can be hastily put together, but in the end it’s a very poorly constructed sweater, with fraying edges and odd lumps with no real shape. To cover it up, the creator puts very pretty buttons on it (/characters). Then the creator says it was really all about the buttons, and the sweater is just a vehicle for the buttons, so it doesn’t matter what it ends up looking like (see: the 2 hour recap episode wherein the producers say LOST was all one big “character sketch,” short for “screw the plot”). The writers and producers took the easy way out and made a very poor sweater. Some people will be distracted by the pretty buttons. Some people just plain like buttons. Whatever floats their boat. But don’t expect me to be happy wearing an ugly sweater just because it has a couple of nice buttons.

      • tvgirl48

        The Christian stuff bugged me because they spent so much time trying to explain things in scientific terms. Faraday, time travel, electromagnetism, constants, etc. and then in the end, oops, it didn’t matter, Sideways world wasn’t their happy ending, it was purgatory, before ascending to the afterlife! Cue the Hallelujah chorus.

      • gf

        Lame, lame ending. So logically, what happened here – hundreds of years after the events on the island some of the crash survivors (and Penny) are re-assembled in “limbo” (which is 2004 LA) to re-group and “walk into the light”? Why even bother showing the island at the bottom of the ocean in the first episode of the season? Just a couple of episodes ago, Richard said Jacob told him what “this place” (the island) was – they couldn’t even bother to address that question? I guess it was just an island….with a big stone wine stopper corking up…something. Well, at least Sawyer and Julia reunited! They should’ve just moved the series to weekday afternoons and called it “One Island to Live.”

      • Kevin from Philly

        I guess that the point they’re trying to make with science vs. religion is that both try to describe the universe in different terms – but it’s the same universe. Until God or Moses or Jesus (or L. Ron Hubbard) writes a TV show, I don’t think it’s fair to expect one “Correct” answer to the mysteries we’ve wondered about for thousands of years.

      • Leah

        I really like your sweater analogy.

      • Lew

        Amen on the lame ending. For 5 years, Cuse and Lindloff have been reaffirming that it wasn’t purgatory or anything like it. And now – et voila! – it was just like a purgatory. And, oh yes, everything was real and happened. For what that’s worth. This was like some second rate M. Night Shamaylan (spelling?) plot trick: A definable deus ex machina, which even the Greeks recognized as a cheap plot device.

      • BG 17

        All I know is that after the BSG finale and now this finale, I don’t think I will be able to invest my time in another sci-fi series just to have it go all deus ex machina on me. It should have been called “The 15 Fellow Castaways You Meet in Heaven” instead of Lost.

      • We’re not really going to Guam, are we?

        Mel: Yeah but that Kate is one helluva button!

      • jon

        @Mel – You said what I have been thinking for days,I could not have said it better! I agree with your analogy, and I am disappointed that the writers appear to have failed to connect the ends of what appeared to be clearly relevant story and plot lines. I would have been happier if the show would have been canceled after Season 2. At least then there would be a reason that major plot lines were never elaborated or answered. PS – To all the viewers who think there are well conceived reasons that certain characters appeared in the final scene, and why some didn’t…this is not true. I am guessing contracts and contract disputes, along with the seemingly random “group hug” created by the writers; these are the elements that created the closing scene…very disappointing. The story had such good promise in the beginning…

      • L

        I do wonder they couldn’t have just left the sideways universe as also being real?

        They couldve had them remember their alternate parallel universe lives once they connected with their ‘constants’ in the sideways universe and then continued living on there.

        Then there would be nothing long con abou the sideways universe!, the bomb blast did work and made the parallel universe where they didn’t crash and lived different lives since nobody corrupted by power of island messed with them, and yet when their island memories merged with them it still made the events in the other universe that we saw the first few season critically important (also tying in with Juliete’s we did it about the bomb blast).

        Bascially the entire finale would fit in EXACTLY as shot with that aside from the last couple minutes or so (although maybe they would’ve needed to all sink with the island, but jack could still be a hero by plugging up hte light and saving that world too).

        I could be wrong but that sort of ending seems less long con to me, gives full meaning to everything, keeps a bit more in line with the parallel universe, ‘quantum’ physics (ok a bit of a stretch but hey it’s fiction) aspects and still given us the emotional attachments and all we wanted to see. And literally all you need to is change about 180 second’s worth of footage from the las 5-10 minutes to make it work that way.

      • Sarah

        To L: I have to admit even though all the above comments amazed me in different ways. But you are the first one who actually thinks da same way I do.. It was much much better if sideways life was the life they had after the blast happend.. and it could be easily comprehended to anyone coz come one we al face Deja Vu’s time to time so I guess somethin like this does exist in real lives as well.

      • iowa313

        totally agree

      • VFR guy

        Thats perposterous.. read all the comments above and you will see whay it was not at all a dumb ending.. it was brilliant.. yes it left out a few things. but its for the intelligent to figure out.. Thats the genious of it!

      • beegee77

        You’re right, Steve…can’t wait for you to post your brilliant ending so that we can all read it and be enlightened…thank you for your televison brilliance, and cant’t wait to see/watch your next record-breaking network show

    • Nikki

      WHAT HAPPENED TO VINCENT!? Did he die, is he lost on the island, did he never exist?? ='( When he laid down beside Jack, I LOST it! I cried for the next 20 minutes so hard that MY dog got in my face and started whimpering, haha

      • Peter

        Yes, Vincent existed and continued to live on the island with Rose and Bernard and dies later on life. Vincent coming to Jack’s death brings us back to beginning when Jack saw Vincent upon waking on the island.

      • Becci

        Dog is God spelled backward. Vincent lived with Rose and Bernard and made sure that Jack was not alone at the end.

      • stevejeltz

        i also think it went back to Jack’s recurring comment about living together & dying alone….he did not die alone & he was able to “fix things….its what he does”

      • Rebecca

        That scene with Vincent at the end killed me! Incredibly moving. The Jack/Locke confrontation on the cliff was amazing. Didn’t see it coming when Kate(!) killed Locke. Other scenes I loved were Jin/Sun, Charlie/Claire/Kate, and Juliet/Sawyer awakenings. Not sure why Sayid and Nadia wouldn’t have been together in purgatory since we know Nadia died during Island time. Maybe something to do with Sayid not allowing himself to be with her because of his shame for his past actions…something Desmond alluded to during their well scene together?

      • Tommaayy!!

        Although Vincent laying down next to jack to comfort him brought a tear to my eye, that damned dog was always nothing but trouble!

      • elr

        Vincent lying down next to Jack was my second favorite scene after the Sawyer/Juliet awakenings. It was an excellent ending to one of the best shows ever on television. I kept telling my sister almost before each awakening what would happen, mainly because they all fit the characters so perfectly.

      • Kevin from Philly

        I almost got through without crying. I would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn’t for those meddlig Losties and that damned dog.

    • Todd

      Yeah no one could predict it because no one thought the ending would be such an utter disappointment. Hard to believe but somehow the way the ended the show had the power to absolutely destroy some of the best television ever created in season one and throughout other seasons. darlton should be ashamed. But they dont care and havent for a long time.

      • Linda

        I think that what I thought the ending in the first place was, that they died in the plane crash and were in Hell, like Richard told them (following his own experience) and that they all redeemed themsselves through their esperiences there (sideways life not needed except to throw us off) and ending at the gates of heaven was PERFECT to me. This ending didn’t require any explainations about all of the other loose ends!

    • Eety8

      I gotta say, as a hard core lost fan… i wasn’t all that happy with the ending. I guess mainly bc the idea of purgatory isnt what i personally believe in. I felt like they put a pretty bow on what i thought they would have left open-ended and left us to wonder about what i thought they would have answered. What about all the connections between the characters? All of the “easter eggs” the writers left for the viewers? Did those things matter at all? I will say tho to look at it as a whole work of art (the show that is)it was fantastic and im not sorry i spent the last 6 years committed to watching. Just feel a lil jaded in the end.

      • Jack

        “I guess mainly bc the idea of purgatory isnt what i personally believe in.”

        And what, smoke monsters and time travel you *do* believe in?

        Jesus Christ.


      • Eety8

        Jack, you do make a good point. However, I’d really appreciate if you would refrain from using the Lords name in vain next time.

      • mamarose

        I agree – I’m also a hard-core fan, and the finale just didn’t have that Lost-BOOM! ending that the greatest Lost episodes have…and I was certainly hoping this would be one of the greatest episodes. It was, for the most part, I just didn’t feel satisfied by the last 20 minutes with the church.

      • Linda

        You don’t have to believe in purgatory to get or appreciate the ending. Looking at it from an atheistic point of view, it made the point that the relationships that you make in your life are what are important to finding peace in your death.

      • Michele

        I don’t think the island was purgatory. It seems like the island drama with the electromagnetic force, Jacob/MIB, Dharma Initiative, existed and was a magical place in some respects, as well as a spiritual place, that allowed our Lostie’s to develop some redemptive qualities of selfless love, heroism, and humility before they died, either on or off the island. The sideways world seemed to be a created place, per Christian, solely for the purpose of all of their souls going on until they could remember and let go – then, meet Jack when he was ready to cross over. It seems like Jack did die on the island as he watched the Ajira flight go over, and Kate, Claire, Sawyer and others died sometime after getting off the island.

        I thought this was a satisfying ending. The Dharma Initiative and all the time-travel science stuff is a bit unnecessary in this resolution, but it is conceivable as part of the island history, especially since “time” was so relative.

        I was very moved during the reunions, and loved the Kate re-emerged as her fighting/heroic self who was in love with Jack. She was so under-used all season. I feel like the best of each character and the couples was revealed last night, and also, Vincent, who made me sob.

      • Chad

        That is not using the Lord’s name in vain. Using the Lord’s name in vain is when you invoke the Lord’s name to imply that you know what God’s will is. Such as, the oil spill in the gulf is God’s will or God gave me these talents so he must want me to play football. When in reality you have no idea what God’s will is. That is, if you believe in God.

      • kyle

        believing in time travel and smoke monsters is just as crazy as believing in invisible men in the sky.

      • Eety8

        glad u agree mamarose. religion being involved or not it just wasnt the lost ending i had hoped for. i didnt expect for a second that all my questions would be answered i was just really craving something more… kinda feels like the Steelers just lost the super bowl. :-/ thats the feeling ive had all day

    • i predicted it!

      well, i predicted that sideways was a common meeting place after dying before moving on to the afterlife, a dreamlike state where weird, incoherent, and or satisfying things happen, where you get to live the life you wish you could have lived. if you read enough fiction, esp sci-fantasy, you’ve seen this plot device before. it feeling so fan-fiction-y made that obvious.

      not taking anything away from LOST though. emotionally heartwarming finale & epilogue.

    • .m

      Best TV ending ever? Six Feet Under, without a doubt.

      • gf

        Yes. I said this to someone earlier, “Six Feet Under” did the “and they all eventually died – the end,” ending correctly.

      • ltmcdies

        well since I never saw Six Feet Under and shan’t be starting..I’ll take this one..thank you

      • Keeli

        Your loss. Six Feet Under was a great show.

        For me, it had a much more satisfying finale than Lost. I was really hoping for another great end to one of my favorite shows, but for me, as far as finales go, SFU wins, hands down.

      • Liz

        Yep, totally agree. Last 10 minutes with the church reunion, I didn’t tear up at all. Last 3 minutes of SFU? Bawled like a baby! It was a much more satisfying ending.

    • JC2

      Last night I luved the finale, at face value. The realizations and reunions were tremendously satisfying. Then I realized that I still yearned for the greater meaning….the greater understanding. And this morning, as I’ve come to understand, there was no purgatory. The island life and deaths were real….and the sideways world was simply a gatherng place, where significant loved ones meet up to go to their eternity or next incarnation together. Ben wasn’t ready, because he was waiting for some other group of people that were more significant….possibly his daughter. Elouise’s face when she was told that Daniel wasn’t ready yet, meant that she understood, he was waiting for Charlotte and possibly Elouise. There was joy in her face. This story is so uplifting and beautiful…no matter your faith. I’m amazed that the more I ponder, the more I LOVE this story. This ending….this series. To those of you who are still BLIND to this story…..MAYBE YOU’RE NOT READY YET! I once was Lost….but now am found!

      • ALM

        JC2: thank you. You’ve just taken all of my thought-threads, tied them together, and summed them up neatly. I found the ending very uplifting and satisfying, but couldn’t quite articulate it (probably due to lack of sleep from staying up through the bitter-Jimmy-Kimmel-end!).

      • Sue

        JC2..good theory. Maybe they waited for the people that were the most significant people to them on the Island.

      • ALX

        OR!!!! Maybe Ben like Michael don’t get to go where everyone else did for having killed so many people out of selfishness! You do recall him extermenating a whole community when he joined the others don’t you???

      • Rebecca E

        JC2, I could be wrong but I thought I saw Charlotte in the church. If so, then she moved on without Daniel, which doesn’t make sense within the show’s internal logic that people who are redeemed go to heaven with their soul mates. It seems like Daniel was held back because Eloise couldn’t/wouldn’t let him go. Controlling mother wins again. However, why was Penny able to go, even though Eloise seemed to caution Desmond that she wasn’t ready (ie, should not be island-enlightened) in an earlier episode this season?

        And, if it was non-linear time and was about moving on with the people who matter most to you, why wasn’t Ji-Yeon (or whatever Jin and Sun’s daughter is named) there too? Certainly she DOES matter and was even part of Sun’s redemption arc. Poor girl got left behind AGAIN!

        Aaron was there as a newborn baby even though he did grow to be a little boy. Did he and Claire ever have a life together? Or maybe what mattered most about him was his birth?

        Anyone who is a parent, feel free to weigh in on whether the most important thing in your character development is your child’s birth and not the rest of your time with him/her. I honestly don’t know.

      • Rebecca E

        Me again–I forgot that Jin and Sun’s daughter was “there” inside Sun, but even so, the point about Aaron holds for her too…was her conception the most important thing about her and not the rest of her life? Is that equally true for both Jin and Sun? Because Sun at least got to raise her for a couple of years, so why doesn’t that matter?

    • Raaawb

      I feel mixed about the ending. It was beautiful and well done, but not fully satisfying for all the directions this show has taken.

      When we got to see the dead characters “alive and well” in the sideways world, this gave an optimistic option — that they were working toward merging the island people with the ones living their lives after the decades-ago destruction of the island. We got to hope that at last, Sun, Jin, Sayid, Charlie and others were ultimately saved from their cruel fates. But, turns out, they weren’t.

      The “Man in Black” was presented as a sympathetic character in many ways who had a cruel fate thrust upon him, right from birth. Forget about that though; he dies at the end as simply “evil, vanquished.”

      And the ongoing device of people being able to see and talk to the dead – Hurley saw Charlie after being dead, yet Charlie later existed in this purgatory with no memories of the island? How’s that? What about Juliet saying, after death, “it worked,” when — it didn’t? But, very cute nod to that with Juliet suggesting “rebooting” the vending machine and afterward saying, “It worked” then.

      Desmond — he was heck-bent on a mission to wake everyone up in the sideways world because he “merged” with his island world self — and then tells Jack it all turns out okay — well, he was WRONG then, wasn’t he!

      How is it that the “happy ending” to a story gets to be where everyone who died, goes to heaven? That COULD be the “happy ending” to EVERY dramatic story, if you think of it. It’s like “Titanic” – everyone’s dead, yet at the very last scene, everyone’s happy and applauding the hero!

      I really expected, and wanted, all these people to end up living in that sideways world, with knowledge of their ordeal and living sweeter lives for their knowledge of it — that was a darn nice happy ending right there. But, maybe that solution was too easy and too “on the nose” for us to actually get that. But they know how to tell a story, and they could have told that one well enough, too — the way they ended this, I actually feel no further interest in re-visiting what led up to it, i.e., buying season set DVDs. Too bad!

      • Liz

        You said exactly what I feel about that ending, word for word, and I have been a devoted fan from day one. It would have been just as easy – and even MORE emotionally satisfying — to have a finale that gradually merged the two ‘lives’ of the main characters: scenes of all the heartbreaking tragedy on-island interspersed on an accelerating basis with scenes of happiness, joy, completion, and finding true love on the flash sideways world, their alternate lives that were created when Juliet smashed that son-of-a-B bomb and told Sawyer, “It worked.” That would have put them right back on the plane and into the lives D & C showed us all this season in the flash sideways, and it would NOT have negated what really happened to them on-island leading up to when Juliet said “It worked.”

        I really, really believe this is the ending that Darlton had written, and the ever feeble-minded studio execs took one look at it and said, “We don’t get it — go back and redo this last bit. Make it sappy, make us cry, give us all the religions in the world, but none of this alternate universe stuff!”

        Darlton said recently (can’t remember where I read it) that they extended the finale from 2 hours to 2-1/2 hours because they “had so much footage the just wanted to include it.”

        I think what I am positing here is what really happened. They were told to scrap the really cool, alternate reality ending and create the shoddy ending of the last 20 minutes, which truly felt like a spliced-together ending.

        Maybe, just maybe, there will be some cool stuff on the DVD extras that shows where their minds were really going with the ending to match all that they had been leading up to all season.

        Oh, and another reason why I think the studio execs told them to dumb down the ending is because of the hilariously snarky, tongue-in-cheek humor of the alternate endings shown on Jimmy Kimmel live. They weren’t serious endings at all. They were clearly sending the message that they tried to come up with something cool and weren’t allowed to.

      • Keeli

        Raaawb, you summed up what I have been thinking all day very well. I had been thinking for several episodes that neither island world or sideways world were quite right and the two needed to be merged. I think the whole season would have made more sense and been more consistent had it played out that way. After all, the season started out with Juliet saying, “it worked”.
        I thought that when the bomb went off, maybe the universe split and two realities were created. The island world which went on as if it hadn’t worked, while the sideways world, in which it had, was there all along as well. And as they all came to remember each other in sideways world, they would realize they needed to find a way to merge the two realities.
        I enjoyed watching the reunions and realizations and thought the acting was great. And I loved the idea that they all cared about each other and were so connected that they would always find each other. But the ending definately lacked the impact I expected based on the past six years. The “they’re all dead in sideways world” twist just didn’t satisfy me and, as many have already said, felt like a bit of a cop-out.
        And as a big Desmond and Penny fan I would have liked to see more of them together than a couple of quick shots at the end and it really bothered me that their son Charlie wasn’t with them.

      • Mike

        So you would have prefered if everyone who died was kinda brought back to life in a different parallel world? THAT constitutes redemption to you?? Wouldn’t that cheapen the ENTIRE six seasos of show, if everyone who ever died just turned out to be fine and dandy?

      • Anya99

        Hurray, Raawb, Liz and Keeli–finally someone saying exactly what I thought would have been a much better ending, too. Right down to Juliet’s “it worked” beyond-the-grave comment and the “Titanic” comparison–so obvious, one would think, but Raawb, you’re the first one on the Internet to mention Titanic that I’ve found. Mike, it might not be redemption per se but I think what they did on the island redemmed our Losties so to me they didn’t need sideways to do that. An alternate parallel timeline (either letting us choose, or made possible by Jack’s action of replugging the hole and resetting the time/space continuum or however you want to explain it) would have been a really satisfying ending that would work for the secular audience as well. In fact, I’d go so far as to say, that many of the people applauding the ending they chose would have been just as happy with that one, too. Of course, we all could create a sideways world where that’s how LOST ends and test my theory. On another note, the light and electromagnetism of the island could have been set up to be either good vs evil or quantum physics or a merging of metaphysics/physics and left for the audience to decide. In a way it was, but the writers pretty much left the scientific explanation by the wayside and emphasized the metaphysical thru much of season 6.

      • L

        “I really expected, and wanted, all these people to end up living in that sideways world, with knowledge of their ordeal and living sweeter lives for their knowledge of it — that was a darn nice happy ending right there.”

        exactly why not just do that?
        otherwise the sideways universe feels a bit like a long con and some of it almost seems cold in a way now, your son was FAKE, etc. and it removes the physics stuff about the bomb and parallel universes and it sort of seems to backtrack.

        why not just have them continue to live in the sideways universe only know with memories transferred over from their alternate island lives and reconnected with their islands loves with full memories of their attachment?

        why did the sideways have to be some lesser reality?

      • L

        “Mike:So you would have prefered if everyone who died was kinda brought back to life in a different parallel world? THAT constitutes redemption to you?? Wouldn’t that cheapen the ENTIRE six seasos of show, if everyone who ever died just turned out to be fine and dandy?”

        not at all it was through their boding and working together that they were able to even reach the point to be able to trigger the parallel universe and they had to have formed those connections and foudn themselves to do that and their connections and memories eventually got transferred to teh sideways universe when their characters their had

      • Liz

        Yep, this sums up exactly what I didn’t like about the finale but couldn’t put my finger on! They could have even done a final scene where they time jumped forward to present day (2010) and you could see everyone together and happy. Jin and Sun would have Ji Yeon, Desmond and Penny would have Charlie, Claire and Charlie would have Aaron, etc. It would even have allowed Walt to come back since he’s obviously grown up since 2004. Even Michael could have been there, because when Hurley said no one’s allowed to leave the island and Ben said that was Jacob’s way of doing things. Under Hurley’s leadership, you know he would have forgiven Michael for killing Libby (and Ana Lucia) and would have allowed Michael to join the others in the parallel Jughead reality. More satisfying personally, still includes the spiritual/faith elements of redemption/forgiveness/love etc. without hitting you over the head with it like this finale did. AND, it would also have incorporated some scientific elements of quantum mechanics, time travel, etc. that the show previously focused on.

    • Alicia

      I didn’t realize they were dead until the very end when Christian spoke, and put the whole “Sideways” world into perspective.

      • Kevin from Philly

        Yeah, I didn’t have a clue, until Hurley told Ben he “was” a great number 2. I did love that Hurley was making a Star Trek reference with that, and it went completely over Ben’s head.

      • Sarah

        thats exactly wht i thought from all along… two worlds existing parallel n they end up mergin together in a way… besides wht was that whole island under da water all about in the first episode when it showed the sideways life?? I really thing they made them change the endin and this wasnt the real one!

      • Lesly

        But they are also dead on the island and bbwsocialnetwork

    • Teresaleej

      I love this show, and the finale in particular, because the writers revealed that one could be deeply spiritual and an intellectual at the same time. I loved the pan religious imagery at the end. Given that, however, I was also touched that there was a lot of specific Christian imagery. Kate’s “Christian Shepherd, really?” line had just the right touch of self-referential humor, as if to say, “yeah guys, one of the writers is Catholic – it’s who he is – just go with it.” How refreshing to see one so unabashedly use his faith as a way of saying, “So here’s how my perspective adds to the scheme of things,” rather than ramming it down our throats. In our very particular political times, this acknowledgement that spirituality, and specifically Christianity, need not be usurped by extremists or anti-intellectuals, and that intellectualism need not be monopolized by scoffing cynics is an awakening in and of itself.

    • econruth

      Emotionally satisfied, intellectually empty. We spent the last 6 years following the Easter Eggs, interpreting the philosophers, reading the books… how can lovers of this show just say it was “character driven”. Nope nope nope! I loved it because trying to solve the clues satisfied my intellectual side and I loved it because it had great characters so why couldn’t the finale have both??????
      Charlie asked “Where are we?” at the end of the pilot. At the very least that question should have been answered!!!

    • Joshua

      I think the show was amazing from beginning to end. If you are a Christian at all, and have grown up in church… then yes there was a good amount of “similar-to-Christian” imagery, but this article tries to say “definitely.” As if to even compare it to soo many stories of the bible. And what if it has similarities to cult teachings? Then it must be rooted in this also? I think the writers did a great job at keeping the whole idea to the show about spirituality and not about Christianity. They said themselves they were not trying to paint a so definite picture as implied by this article, but make a setting so we the watchers could relate to the characters. Would you like to go as far as to say the movie 300 was based on biblical teachings also because one man sacrificed himself for the greater good? Bottom lie was LOST was based on an agnostic approach to spirituality and not to define what is good and evil as the bible does; but to tell a story with a common motif that has been redone throughout history in many different ways. This was the worst review of LOST I have read so far.


    Good review. I thought the episode was a great ending to the series. I know some people won’t be happy with so many unanswered questions. But I thought it struck the right ton.

    Just one note on the review: I think you’re probably referring to the all-time greatest ending – Newhart – and not The Bob Newhart Show (which had a rather boring last episode).

    • joeyg

      You are correct about Newhart. I was almost going to comment solely for that reason myself. (Last season of “The Bob Newhart Show” hardly had Bob in it at all.)

    • JasonHomey

      The fake Newhart ending with Kate on the Jimmy Kimmel show was great and a winking nod to Bob.

    • amack

      Why do people keep saying there were so many unanswered questions? They answered all the major questions. The finale was a beautiful end to a beautifl series.

      • B-

        They never really explained what the island was. Also for the more casual viewer, the whole sideways purgatory thing could confuse people. Because I know many people who think they all died in the crash due to the fact that they showed the wreckage on the beach all still and quiet.

      • jailyss

        This show isn’t for the casual viewer. Christian said the island existed and that all the people in the church were dead, some before him and some long after. Let your friends know if it never happened it would invalidate having them all need to come together to cross over.

      • JC

        II don’t want to debate the ending–I just want to put it out there that for all the hardcore Losties, this was a happy ending for all the characters you came to love. The writers got that much right. However, I think the “mysteries” and “unanswered questions” exist more because the writers went a certain direction, and then couldn’t figure out where to go next, rather than being true plot points.

        I think the whole series was different levels of purgatory. I think there’s a reason you saw Jack going through the jungle to die, with the wreckage still hanging from the trees–as in, that’s near where he ended up when the crash happened. I think they all died in the crash, or very shortly after, and their time on “the island” was their first step to ascention. The series runners showed the wreckage, still looking pretty brand new, at the end of the series. One set of footprints leaving the wreckage. Jack’s. Come on, folks–that speaks volumes. Also, the fact that not nearly everything you saw or heard on this show ever came to fruition–so their “explanation” that only sideways world was purgatory was probably crap.

        One had to do something redemptive on the island to move onto the “sideways purgatory”, which for my money, was heaven–Wherever they WANTED to be in the afterlife.

        In conclusion, after the first episode I said “they’re all dead; this is purgatory”. This turned out to be pretty much on the money. Doesn’t necessarily take away from the show–but I feel like the writers were more than a little dishonest with their audience along the way.

      • JC

        Ah, and for everyone saying “they would never have known each other unless the island was real life”–think again. First off, the last minute of their lives was spent together being terrified. This bonds people in an amazing and profound way. I’m not saying the island “didn’t happen”–I’m saying it didn’t happen when they were alive. Sylvia is not wrong, from where I am sitting. I saw the same thing, give or take. Jack’s sacrifice may have been greater than the redemptive moments of others, but I don’t believe any of it took place anywhere but in a “third dimension.”

      • Rebecca

        Glad they didn’t explain what the island was because I am sure a lot of people would have hated that explanation too! The island is whatever you want it to be, I guess. Good enough for me. Like the nature of reality, the island itself is a mystery. Does anyone really know what the experience we call reality actually is? Even many scientists aren’t exactly sure…no one is and if they claim to “know”, they are full of it.

      • DR

        My husband and I both read it that they all died in the Oceanic crash because the wreckage at the end was a pretty telling device, we thought. I didn’t totally get that the sideways world was purgatory. It works more that the island was purgatory, or at least the beginning of it … the image of the black and white stones on the scale, to me, sounds like a metaphor for their souls. I love the ending, and I don’t mind if they all died in the crash. If that’s the case, you have to look at the story as what happened to their souls, which is still completely relevant. Even if their bodies perished.

      • Zeak

        Good for you JC! I read about 329 purgatory opinions after the show hit the airwaves, so you have proven yourself a wholly un-unique prognosticator. And your prediction wasn’t actually “ON THE MONEY” anyway. The ‘purgatory’ of LOST got introduced season 6, in the Sideways world. Everything else happened in the real world. But keep slapping yourself on the back for your foresight and keen intelligence! It’s adorable!

      • Sharon Mia Opinionstein

        I personally was so enchanted by the ending that I dodnt care about the Man In Black’s name or why CJ Craig was on the Island etc, but my husband was utterly perturbed by it all. I guess he is a pre-reformation Jack and I am a post-Jack. So to my husband and those like him: Let go, brother! Remember. Move on. See you in another life.

      • Linda

        There were lots of things left unanswered, unexplained, but they couldn’t answer every twist back to Season 1, and they summed it all up the best way they could. I’m not disappointed in the not-answering, but here are a few things:
        ~Walt, why was he special, how could he have the powers he had, how did Shannon see him in the jungle when he was on a boat with Michael/

        ~Why didn’t Clair time travel, and why did she walk away from Aaron but then be mad at everyone for deserting her?

        ~What happened to Ben when he was a boy and Richard “healed” him? Richard said he would never be the same again.

        ~How did Faraday get off the island in Dharma time and then return on the sub?

        ~How was Jacob able to leave the island to make contact with those he was “calling”?

        Etc, Etc.

      • me

        At this point the answers to the questions can be whatever you want them to be. Feel free to use your imagination. For example, when the Ajira 6 got back to the mainland James Ford (Sawyer) and Miles opened up a Private Investigation Agency.

        I think of Lost as a comic book and in the Lost-verse the Island timeline is reality, and the Flash Sideways is the after life (Purgatory if you so chose). The Flash Sideways doesn’t make sense if you don’t think of the Island timeline as real. If the people died at the initial crash, then why would Kate, John, Hurley, Sayid, Desmond, etc. be important to Jack in the Flash Sideways? They wouldn’t because he wouldn’t have known them.

      • Rebecca E

        @me: I think I agree: if the island was purgatory, what about the people who came to the island looking for Oceanic 815 survivors and then became important to the Losties? (Daniel, Charlotte and Frank)

        What about Others who became important (Juliet and Ben)?

        You could say that Jacob’s touching the Losties was a way of predestining them to be in the same purgatory because their souls would play off of each other in a way that would achieve redemption…but then Juliet and Desmond weren’t touched by Jacob, only by Dharma and Eloise, respectively. And Richard was bought by a guy with the last name of Hanso…Dharma connection?

        One thing the whole spiritual thread doesn’t explain is why Dharma and the electromagnetic forces were so influential. So much of what the Losties did had to do with that and was stuff that they would never have otherwise done. They committed sins on the island that they probably wouldn’t have in different circumstances, so how did that help with redemption?

    • darrell

      I think the part where Jack and FLocke battled and FLocke was human again was genious…good scenes. Corking adn recorking the bottle fantastic. I think most people that aren’t happy with the ending – it was good ending to me – but the story kind of missed the quirkiness and thin on the action we are used to. Good story but it felt a little sleepysometimes…..

      • TC

        JC: We LIVE in the 3rd dimension.

      • MT

        I think the entire story about locke at the end was amazing. Locke’s body was being claimed by the smoke and this was the one last thing that he needed in order to move on. He had to “let go” in order to allow this transformation to happen — i.e., take his body from the smoke and complete his redemption before moving on. Amazing story there.

  • Amiee

    I’m sure there are a lot of lost fans out there who will be upset that they didn’t get the answers to everything and have it all spelled out for them. I, however, loved it. Just like you I was glad to see Hurley play a bigger part and just like you I was pleased that over all it left me with a happy, contented feeling.

    • Yes

      I always said as long as Hurley isn’t hurt, it would be a good ending.
      It was the best ending it could be. This was never a show about being definitive. I am happy because the people (at least most of them) were reunited in some way, even if it was after they all died. Of course I’m curious how long Hurley & Ben protected the island and who took over for them and what happened to those who got off the island. But that would mean the show wasn’t over and sadly, it’s over. They protected the island.
      It’s interesting too how many times people thought they knew what was going on (like Desmond) but in the end were wrong. Kind of like all of us fans with our predictions and being wrong about 99% of the time!
      The haters can continue to hate, but I loved it. It was never a show about easy answers and I appreciate that they took that all the way to the end!

      • sylvia

        Hurley and Ben didn’t protect the island and Sawyer, Kate, and Claire never got off the island. They were all dead – the island was Purgatory and once Jack made his sacrifice, it allowed them all to move on.

      • erika

        Sorry Sylvia, I am pretty sure you are totally wrong.

      • Amy Leigh

        @ Sylvia: Did you completely miss what Christian said to Jack? “Some died before you, some died after you.” Why else would Hurley have told Ben that he was a great #2 if they protected the Island together? The Sideways world was purgatory where they waited for everyone.

      • HARP

        Sylvia, you are wrong. Go back and watch again.

      • Eric Cedo

        No Sylvia…the island was not purgatory. The island was real life…otherwise they would have never met in real life, thus, no need to “find each other” in the afterlife.

      • allie08

        sylvia – you need to rewatch the show. you have it all wrong.

      • Dave

        Sylvia, you’re completely wrong. Its like you didn’t pay attention. As Christian told Jack, everything that happened was real. The “sideways reality” was purgatory, the island was real. They all died at different times and ended up in the sideways-purgatory, where time had no meaning. Go watch the episode this time.

      • carolyn

        Sylvia- did you watch the same episode as the rest of us? They said that the “sideways” world was pergatory- not the island- the island was real and yes Hurley and Ben protected it until they died on the island.. Jack died when he put the cork back in… and others obviously died before him.. they all were in the pergatory world (as those that were the whisperers on the island) and they waited until they all died to reunite and then move on from the sidewas pergatory- except Michael- and some weren’t ready to leave like Ben who may have now have a life for awhile with Alex and Rousseau.. Desmond also said he wasn’t going to take Daniel -who probably ended up with Charlotte- and Miles, and Lapidus also didn’t go with them… they weren’t on Oceanic 815 either.. so that may be another reason they didn’t go with them…

      • Andy Bluebear

        So…how does that explain all the stuff that happened in season’s 4 and 5? The stuff that took place with the Oceanic 6? And Ben and Locke leaving the island? Does Jee-yoon exist? How was Penny dead?

      • Casey

        @ Andy Bluebear

        It all happened.

      • Sam

        Actually it did look like Hurley and Ben protected the island long after. The reason I say this is, outside the meeting place, Hurley, says you were a great Number 2 and Ben tells Hurley you were a great Number 1. The sequence was Jack dying and subsequently the rest of the plane members dying at different times. My guess is Jack’s sacrifice, resulted in him not necessarily moving on yet. So Hurley with ben’s help as island guardian facilitates the meeting, so all the souls can move on. As Cristian mentioned, it was about remembering all the things that mattered in their lives before they got to move on. They all eventually moved on to whatever’s next. I mean thats a great as any ending could be. Resolution….

      • L

        Sylvia! Seriously? Were you watching the same show???

      • Matt

        The island was real life and the sideways was purgatory, purgatory was timeless, so when they all had died and were ready to move on, some were not ready to move on like ben. What of the people that were killed in the sideways world?? Like the bad ass merc who was hired to kill Jin? what was the meaning of showing the crash scene at the very ending??? That threw me off…there was the crash scene without any of the chaos of the people running around in the pilot. That wasn’t the crash after they all died, the fusalogue was burnt and the parts scavaged for other gives me pause if i truely understood whether the sideways was purgatory, island life was real or did they all die when the plane crashed and jack returning to where he woke in season one was simply him letting go and dying….was everything his imagination? i like the idea of the purgatory and the island being the real story, but the fact of where jack laid down and then them showing the crash site so calm and peaceful gave me pause….

      • BNC


        Penny died later in life like we all do. Everyone dies eventually, but when they did they all nded up in the same place — together.

      • Rebecca

        I am curious to know who was protecting the island after Ben and Hurley died. That is a mystery just like the mystery of caretakers prior to Jacob’s stepmom!

      • Rob

        Just because Christian said “some died before you and some long after you” doesn’t have to mean the island wasn’t purgatory as well. Richard, Penelope, Ben (non plane riders) etc… they could have been the “some” that died before and long after Jack. Everyone on the plane could have died when the plane crashed and needed the island (purgatory) to reconcile or redeem their past lives. The “sideways” world could have been as Christian stated “a place you all constructed together in order to remember and let go”. Christian said to Jack, “that everything that happened to you was real”. What’s the definition of real? Is only your human body-life “real” but everything after death that you experience, that’s not “real”?

      • me

        If any timeline is Purgatory it would be the Flash Sideways, and in order for the Flash Sideways to make sense you have to assume that the Island timeline is reality. Otherwise, the characters wouldn’t have known each other much less be important to each other as it was stated in the Flash Sideways.

      • coatrack

        So, I agree with everyone that what happened on the island was real. But if that’s true, what was the point of the shot at the end of the empty wreckage on the beach? Should it have been obvious or are we supposed to be puzzled by it?

      • KC

        You weren’t paying attention m’dear.

      • Kevin from Philly

        If they all died in the plane crash, where did Ben and all the others come from? I think you missed the mark.

      • teresa

        Sylvia: So wrong on so many levels.

    • Andres Kievsky

      I vehemently disagree. There’s a difference between “explaining everything” and making some sense. The final episode was just bad – pretending this is an arthouse, emotional movie is fabulously wrong – the producers lack the skills to go there, so it turned campy, dishonest and mocking.
      A vastly superior message could have been delivered whilst making some sense of the questions they have raised; that was always the strength of the show, and by not delivering, the producers have set a sad precedent: we now that they are determined to squeeze every cent of advertisement first, and not to let one cent go for the sake of a good story.
      This show should have been cancelled somewhere in season 2.

      • Matt hanson

        Totally missed the point. Would you have liked Jacob to sit there reading a rulebook. What exactly did you want that you didnt get from this shoe?

      • Bamboozeled

        When the producers/writers, AND Doc Jensen went on the campaign trail to force our perspective of “Character Drama” I realized that they had written themselves into a corner. To watch the “Recap Show” to bring us up to date, then only to treat us to a “Reunion” show as a finale with a heavy does of Mr. Eko’s “Jesus Stick” was insulting to their own body of work and our intelligence. M*A*S*H, Mary Tyler Moore and Bob Newhart are the epitomies of great story endings. The much maligned Jericho ending, and h3ll, even the Lone Gunmen presented a good ending. But I think that this will go down in the books as a “Seinfeld” ending. A real shame. I guess my Lost veiwng (and collection) will end at season five. I will save my moola and purchase “Police Squad” instead.

      • mari

        go watch it again. you are the one expecting some artsy-fartsy, mind-blowing explanation. i stopped watching regularly after season 2 not because i hated it but because i have no patience for serials. but my hubby never missed an episode and he was satisfied with the ending.

      • Trey

        Why should the ending make sense? This was one of the most enigmatic shows in the history of TV. It would have been dissapointing if it was all wrapped up in a nice little bow. I thought it was excellent.

      • Chris

        And why did you continue watching?

      • boocat

        I guess the ending went over your head like an Oceanic airplane. I absolutely loved it!!! When Sawyer and Juliet re-united at the vending machine, I cried from the pure joy of it. It was a fittng ending and I’m only sorry it’s finally over.

      • Rebecca

        Bamboozled, I have been rewatching season 1, and even from that season, LOST was a character-based drama. So I don’t think we were bamboozled. This was a character-based drama from the get go.

      • ani

        Rebecca, I totally agree. Starting with Season 1, I was so impressed with the character development and how well done it was. I absolutely loved how each episode focused on one character and his life/personality/flaws/redemption/etc. For those who say that Lost is all about the mysteries, I say that you are wrong. From the beginning, Lost has been about the characters.

  • Ken

    Finally, my ‘they all died at the end joke,’ is appropriate…

    • Celia

      Now that you bring that up…can someone tell me did all of them die on the first plane crash and the whole show was them trapped in pergatory and when they “died” on the island, it was really them just “moving on.” Or did all the stuff on the Island actually happen? Sorry if this has already been answered.

      • Michelle

        Island = Real
        Sideways = Not Real

      • Ammu

        This is my question! And Ken, my boyfriend hasn’t caught up yet, but when I went to bed last night he goes to me “they all die in the end” I couldn’t help but laugh.

      • anna

        How I understood it, it was the latter. They all lived what we saw on TV (and some of them lived beyond the island), but because they were so important to each other, they came back together in death to spend eternity together.

      • VickiH

        No, the Island was real, but they all died at different times, as Christian said, some before Jack and some after Jack. But they were all tied together by their time on the Island and so at their send-off at the end, that is how they were represented as they were during that time appearance wise. But since Lost ultimately was Jack’s story, it ended when he died and finally let go.

      • Ammu

        @ Vicki– AHhh, this is helpful!

      • Schachjj

        The island stuff really happened. The sideways world was their “limbo”. (love that answer by the way. Wink/nod to everyone that thought the island was limbo.) They all died at different times, but in limbo, time does not exist so it appeared that they were there together at the same time. End of the day, LOST was a character story and the show ended with a redemptive arch closure. My take away = The events in our lives (island adventures, polar bears) provide backdrop and sidestory, but our relationships truly provide “Life”. Live together, die alone.

      • laurie b.

        And that wreckage they showed during the end credits…..was that the Ajira plane?

      • chamlo


        Good question (I agree with everyone posts: Island = real; Sideways = not real). But I fear that one’s enjoyment of the finale hinges on that question. Some of my friends who hated the finale thought that the island world was fake (purgatory); while those of us who loved the ending understood the island story as the real story.

        Live together; die together, eh?

      • CRVBoy

        @laurie b. – I believe that wreckage was the original plane.

      • me

        The sacrifice of Jack made the continued existence of both worlds possible. It winds up that the Light is important in both the Island-timeline and Sideways-timeline. Take away the Light and the happy ending at the end of the Sideways-timeline doesn’t take place.

      • spaceaudiobooks

        I’m wishing they didn’t show the wreckage. I think it was just intended to show the empty set of the first season, but of course people will take to mean that everyone was dead all along.

      • JC

        Everything that happened on the island was “real life” to the castaways. They did not die in the initial plane crash. As Christian said to Jack, “some died before you, and some died after.” Lapidus, Miles, Kate, Claire, Sawyer, and Richard all escaped the island on the Aijira plane. Desmond presumably left (ironically) on the Elizabeth, the same boat he came in on. Hurley and Ben remained on the island to protect the light for who knows how long, but they eventually died. Remember Hurley saying to Ben, “You were a good no. 2.” The sideways world was the “in-between” of life (island world) and the afterlife (bright light you see in the church at the end). The souls of the castaways (at least the redeemed ones) wanted to gather together and travel to the afterlife together. But to do that, they first had to remember their real lives and their loved ones. That is what was represented by the sideways world.

      • Katie

        i agree with spaceaudiobooks. at first i was totally going with christian and them having lived all of it but the plane wreckage threw me off. i still think that the island was real but i think the confusion with what was real is because of the credits.

      • Eric

        JC — Your answer is by far the best answer I’ve come across. Nice, 1 paragraph summation! Thank you for the clarification.

      • celia

        Thanks for all the great explanations. it really helped a lot. my interpretation of the finale was somewhere in that realm but i wanted to make sure. i was worried that the show had pulled a “it was all a dream.”

      • shoegirl927

        The island was real… everything happened. Everyone died at different times and when you did die you met up with everyone from the island.

      • Ana

        My take is that the sideways world is what they created when they set off that atom bomb. They wanted to create a reality in which they never ended up on the island. They managed it (as Juliet said, “It worked.”), but because everything that happened was already in their past, what they ended up creating was a limbo that mirrored their lives on the island.

      • ALM

        I loved how they were all sitting in the church at the end as Christian walked out. They were waiting for others to join them, like Ben, Michael, Walt, and Ana Lucia (when they were “ready”).

      • Caryn

        I also think the wreckage in the credits was a send off of the tv show/set and not part of the story. They flashed the LOST that closed the story before showing the beach set.

    • Hutchy

      Everything on the Island was real, it all happened, everyone who died, died. The Sideways world was the “waiting room” to get into heaven that was constructed by the castaways themselves, their experiences and lives.

      • Ammu

        So basically they all died *somehow* we just don’t know how for some (ie those that escaped on the plane, Hurley, Ben…etc)…?

      • Dave


        Yes. Some died when we saw in the show (Boone, Shannon, etc), others years later. Note Hurley and Ben’s conversation about being a number one/number two. Clearly they had worked together on the island for a good while before they died.

    • Mike

      The sideways arc was purgatory. verything on the island was real and happened as you saw it. Then, some 50 years later or whatever, after Sawyer and kate and them flew away, they lived their lives and eventually died, like we all do. And then met up in purgatory so they could let go and move on together.

      • Luddite

        I don’t think purgatory is the right word for it though. It was a space they created to find one another, but there didn’t seem to be any element of punishment to the Sideways world. It was an in-between place.

      • Greg

        I like to think of it as the “Afterlife,” not purgatory. And it was a great finale. As a 16 year old boy, I almost cried. My mom actually did cry when the dog showed up next to Jack at the end. Overall, I wanted the finale to make me feel like I didn’t waste 6 years watching it, and the finale made 6 years of LOST worthwhile.

      • Cheryl

        Purgatory is defined as the final purification of the elect (not the punishment of the damned) The characters, in order to achieve their own final purifications had to remember their redemptive actions from life on the island.

      • ani

        I dunno…I also thought of it as more of an afterlife. or perhaps another plane of existence. It also seemed very Jack-centric. I wonder if everyone has their own afterlife that’s slightly different and these all just exist, where time and space don’t really have a definition and everything is fluid…one world runs into another, into another…Or maybe i’m just whack.
        Anyone reminded a bit of the 7th harry potter and the place he ends up with dumbledore, in Harry’s version of an afterlife?

      • Sharon

        So what is the meaning of all the mirrors in Sideways world?

      • Katie

        ani- yes!! harry potter. i brought that up about 15 minutes after the show ended. and there is a line that dumbledore says and its something like of course this is all in your head, but that doesnt mean its not real (not a direct quote obviously). and if i remember correctly, some harry potter fans had a problem with that chapter because it was never fully explained where he went, how he cam back, etc. i loved that chapter though, and i personally loved the series finale.

      • Linda


        I think the mirrors are all symbolic of the turning inward and examing your own life and relationships in order to find peace as you die.

      • Rebecca E

        Luddite, there were purgatory-like elements–Sayid had to decide whether to kill people to defend Nadia and her family (his brother, niece and nephew); Ben was tested when he had the chance to make a power play that would’ve hurt Alex’s future; Jack had a son that he had to reconcile with. And so on.

    • Emma

      Geez, what is with you people and that stupid dog??!

      • amy

        What’s with the dog is: Jack did not die alone. You would have to have had a dog to understand what a comfort that was to Jack fans.

      • Hurley Fan

        Amy, I couldn’t have said it better myself.

      • Liz

        Spoken like a true animal hater. I know I was by my dogs side when he passed and if I had gone first he would have been there for me.

      • hindu mythology

        since these writers are well-versed in world religions & used an Om symbol in the stained-glass window of the world religions, they might be aware of the hindu mythology story of yudistira, the only man to have been “perfect” enough to be allowed into heaven w/o having to die… but he insisted on bringing his dog along to heaven, so the gods in heaven denied Yudistira entry, requiring him to die first, since they didn’t allow dogs into human heaven. i think having vincent there at jack’s death is a nod to this hindu story.

      • Julia

        Emma, do the animal world a favour and never, ever adopt any pets of your own.

      • Tina

        I loved the Dog part. Why does everyone have to tear each other apart when they have different views? I thought it was good but toooooo long with the commercials. Personally I liked the DOG and GOD reference and I liked learning about the Hindu religion as well. Unless you have them, you will not realize what real comfort and unconditional love an animal can give you. That in itself is another reference to GOD, not judging. I (being half asleep) and not as cool as everyone else even got that they were in purgatory. I guess I did learn something in CCD after all. So how about we share our thoughts and not our judgements?

    • TC

      What REAL island has smoke monsters, polar bears, and a button to push every 180 minutes…., come on folks.

      • Linda

        dude, no one said it wasn’t fiction.

      • Linda

        Thank you! The only explanation to me is that it WASN’T REAL!

  • Lisa Simpson

    I loved everything except for the resolution of the Sideways world with its creepy smiling people. Too facile.

    • Bake

      Totally agree- I always have a problem with “happy” endings where everyone is dead. But it was a great final show.

    • ani

      Creepy smiling people were a bit too much. When did Boone become awakened..I wonder what his trigger was..probably something incestuous with Shannon, not appropriate for network tv. Also, why did everyone totally understand everything, but when Jack was awakened, he had question after question. It makes me think that this was HIS afterlife and not necessarily everyone else’s.

      • Tony

        I agree. I thought the entire sideways world was only Jack’s journey to the afterlife. Each time someone dies, the all gather again to usher that person into the next level. These are the people Jack chose to be there for him. Maybe Hurley would have his parents. Maybe Sayid would have Nadia. They way they were paired up and repaired (Locke walking, Juliet with Sawyer) is the world Jack created for his journey. But, I could be wrong.

      • Rebecca

        Wonder if it’s possible that Boone was awakened as early as episode 1 of this season — before getting on the plane. Hence his odd remark to Locke about following him in case of a crash. I think it’s possible that Bernard and Rose were also already awakened…Bernard was acting strangely with Jack in his office (like he knew something) and Rose was a bit off with Jack, too. Seems to me Rose and Bernard would have reawakened each other.

      • stevejeltz

        Yep I agree…this was Jack’s afterlife so he was able to choose the people & in what context they appeared/engaged with one another. In his view, he was able to “fix” everything — Locke walking, couples reunited/together, a strong understanding/bond with his father, Jin/Sun expecting a child. Had this been another character’s viewpoint/death, we might have seen other people & other pairings of the characters….good stuff in my opinion.

      • ani

        ohhh..that does clarify things for me. this being Jack’s afterlife, it was all about fixing people. he even said to Locke that healing him was all he needed in order to find peace. I do like the idea that everyone has their own version, it surprisingly makes a lot more sense that way. although, the ending still depressed me.
        …and yes, I think Rose and Bernard had been awakened long ago. When Oceanic 815 went through the turbulence, Rose was the one calming Jack down, telling him that it was all okay.

      • Mike

        Wasn’t Jack’s afterlife. If it was, we wouldn’t have had several, MULTIPLE sideways episodes featuring the other members of the cast and NO Jack anywehre.

      • kcgreg

        I don’t understand how the Sideways purgatory world is Jack’s “created” afterlife. Then why did he not know what was going on until the final meet at the church? And what was the deal with Desmond running around the Sideways world being a catalyst to the “awakenings”? So in Sideways purgatory, you start a new life with no initial recollections of your human life until a “catalyst” helps you remember? Sloppy ending to an intelligent show. I prefer to forget about the Sideways storyline and enjoyed how the island story played out till the end.

  • Dav

    I couldn’t help but notice the rather obvious multi-religion themed window in the church. You could see it quite clearly behind Jack while he stood by his father’s coffin. It had symbols of many religions – Christianity, Islam, Judasim, Budhism, and a few I didn’t recognize. I think they were trying to make a point that this was all inclusive.

    • Kisha

      I noticed that to .There was also a Budda statue and menorah side by side on the bookshelf as he came into the room.

    • MnM

      Not quite “all” inclusive. I didn’t see an Atheist Darwin fish symbol in that church. LOL

      • cc

        How about the biscuits they ate in the bear cages! Just kidding. Don’t go there!

      • e4bot

        That would be the Dharma shark ;)

      • kyle

        im an atheist and i wouldnt expect any sign im familiar with to be in a churches window…

      • whatevs

        I’m sure no atheist wants their symbol to show up in a church. That would defeat the purpose.

    • Ajay C

      @ Dav

      The other symbol that you did not recognize was Hinduism – which is by the way where the writers got the term NAMASTE from. It’s a form greeting in the Hindu religion. It can be used to say hello as well as goodbye.

      • Ammu

        And they had a picture of Krishna up there too. Very interesting.

      • hindu mythology

        Namaste also means na-ma-te = not-me-you = non-duality = “you all everybody”

      • hindu mythology

        some ppl in the west also interpret namaste to mean “the light in me sees the light in you” (my yoga teacher says this all the time, lol)

    • sandasavi

      Not just in the Church, but each awakening could be very Buddhist, as enlightenment. The writers wanted people of faith, whatever faith they believe in to feel the connection.

    • John

      “all inclusive.”

      aka You all everybody.

      • Kat

        oh my goodness, I totally LOLd at this! oh, driveshaft…

      • ALM

        Loved the Jimmy Kimmel “orchestra” rockin’ out to DriveShaft.

    • Andrew

      And did you notice the donkey wheel in the stained glass too?

      • ani

        that was a dinkey wheel?.. i thought the wheel is an important symbol in buddhism…

      • ani


      • Lisa

        I don’t think that was the donkey wheel – there is a spiritual concept that believes that every religion leads to the same “God” and they are all represented by spokes on a wheel leading to the center.

      • Me

        Lisa – Maybe that’s the point of using a “donkey wheel” on the island.

      • QK

        not a donkey wheel – a wheel of life.

    • nodnarb

      There was a statue in front of the church too. It may have just been a Jesus statue, but I wasn’t so sure. Did anyone notice what the statue was?

      • Sharon

        I noticed that statue too. It was not Jesus. I’m guessing it was some philosopher.

      • nodnarb

        That was my guess too! I suspect it has some merit… hopefully Jensen will give it to us in his recap.

      • M.R. in L.A.

        There was one shot that was a close up of it’s face. That very much reminded me of the face of an angel on the front of the cathederal in Reims France where the kings of France were crowned.

      • Kevin from Philly

        It didn’t look like an alligator, did it?

      • JHM

        That was a statue of Jesus, arms outstretched. They showed it multiple times during the episode and also over the course of the show, including the episodes where they meet up to be told by Eloise Hawking how to get back to the island.

  • Emma

    Seriously, I’m just happy Sawyer and Juliet are together. Where ever they are.

    • Celia

      I loved their scene. It was so sweet. I also LOVED when Charlie saw Claire in the audience. I don’t think I’ve ever cried so much. lol. I’m way too emotionally attached to this show.

      • Ammu

        LOL! I feel I am too attached too! I loved Sawyer/Juliet together! When he said “I got you, baby” and hugged her… I was bawling…

      • Liza

        I was all chocked up when it came to Claire and Charlie and Sawyer and Juliet. So amazing! Shannon and Sayid was touching as well. She died so long ago that you almost forgot how they felt about each other.

      • G

        But, I always thought Sayid’s true love was Nadia?

      • Christina

        @ G: I thought so too but Nadia was with Sayid many times in the sideways world and never triggered his memories so maybe she wasn’t his true love?

      • Rebecca

        Nadia would not have triggered Sayid’s island memories because she was not on the island with Sayid during his personal transformation. And it took Charlie to initially awaken Desmond.

      • Me

        Or…it’s because this is *Jack’s* awakening, and he had no reason to ever know Nadia.

    • pop

      “i’d love to but the machine ate my dollar” was funny and unexpected. i loved it.

      • Dan

        Also loved the Sun and Jin moment during the ultrasound when they had their enlightenment. They looked at Juliet and spoke English with knowing smiles on their faces (which Juliet didn’t recognize b/c she didn’t have her moment with Sawyer yet). As soon as Jin & Sun spoke English I knew there was something “more” to sideways world. My suspicions were confirmed when Locke told Jack (after surgery) that “you don’t have a son” while Jack was going to the concert. Very satisfying finale!

      • BP

        And Juliet’s repeat of “Let’s go for coffee” and”It worked” were her dying lines earlier in the season. Maybe that was her point for letting go and a foreshadowing of what was to come for Jack-

      • Lisa

        “it worked” was about the vending machine – not the bomb

        AHA moment for me just now :)

      • ani

        anyone else laugh when Juliet was like “you know, your english is actually quite good!” to Sun and Jin? I loved that their trigger was the baby.

      • e4bot

        I bawled because I realized Jin never saw his daughter, and now he did on the ultrasound, and that was his trigger

    • n

      Yes, I bawled like a baby when they reunited!

      • Kevin from Philly

        I wouldn’t go so far as to say I cried, but the smoke monster did get in my eyes.

    • julie

      @Emma…like you, I’m just happy Jack and Kate ended up together, in whatever world they’re in. I cried when they kissed and admitted to each other and us that they loved each other. I was always nervous this would be an unanswered question.

      • e4bot

        I liked this answer, too, but was it bothering anyone else that it seemed like they were trying to put Kate back with Sawyer since she came back to the island? I liked the ending so much, I’m trying to overlook that…

      • Kevin from Philly

        Yeah eBot. It almost makes you wonder if Sawyer and Kate got together after they escaped, but never REALLY loved each other the way they loved Julliett and Jack, respectively.

  • Troy

    I’m good with the ending. I ended up caring more about the people than the hard answers at the end, and that kind of surprised myself.

    • etm

      I totally agree with you.

      • Miguel

        I agree 100% with this as well. Thought I’d want to know all the answers but I was just so touched by all the people. In the end the people mattered more.

    • Doc Raider

      I soooo agree with you Troy — I am really sick of all the hate and venom being spewed here (and other websites) about how “horrible” the ending was. REALLY? How about looking below the surface? How about thinking for yourself (e.g., not relying on anyone else for answers)? I loved it and am eternally grateful for an amazing 6 years!

      • JoJo

        “How about thinking for yourself?” Right, then why watch a tv program – just use your imagination and make up your own! Think for yourself! This show was about the mysteries and mythology as much as it was about characters, but the writers and producers chose to ignore that in the finale.

    • Hutchy

      I dunno, I think people pissing and moaning about Dharma time travel experiments from 3 seasons ago are pretty much weaksauce. Having said that, they didnt answer the main mystery i wanted answered: how did the MIB end up in the cabin? Who trapped him there? How long was he there? How did they find out that ashes would stop him? That would have been quite a cool episode to see that story.

      • Robin

        The MIB was never actually trapped in the cabin. He is the one that whispered “help me”, more of his plan to dupe poor Locke. Smokey was the ultimate deceiver, his power was to lie. Think about it.

      • bamabunny

        Exactly…the ashes, the “protection,” etc., was all MIB manipulation and trickery. I would even bet the sonic fence was unnecessary, to give the Others, Dharma, a false sense of security. The only thing that could control MIB was Jacob, and even then he didn’t have complete control.

      • JHM

        Huh–I saw the ashes as being something Jacob put in place to give people some security from the smoke monster. Smokey couldn’t move them, but he could manipulate people into moving them for him. That’s one of the reasons why he befriended Claire in the form of Christian–so she could do stuff for him like remove the ashes, thereby letting him into the cabin and the temple.

    • mcnez

      You could say the same about life. This is why I’ve always loved Lost.

  • Klyph

    I will say this. I LOVED this finale and having stopped thinking about it all night. Alot of fans and people will be upset because every question from every season didn’t get answered but I’m find with that because I know how to think for myself! I do have one theory about a question that will probably pop up. What would have happened if the Man in Black had left the island? NOTHING! I truly believe that Jacob did not want his brother to leave the island because he NEEDED him to be there, he needed something to believe in, something to fight for, something to make his life seem like it had a purpose. Yes, there were implications from extinguising the “light”….all of the “magic” that made Smokey and Jacob immortal was gone. So why didnt Jacob just go unplug the cork befor and kill MIB? Because he didn’t want to. If he couldn’t protect the island from its worst enemy than what was his purpose in life? Jacob had lied to himself like his mother had lied to them both.

    • Klyph

      Sorry for the typos……its early!

    • Steve O

      I like this idea. Seems to hold true too after what Ben said to Hurley that the way Jacob ran things wasn’t really the best or right way. With the cork let out, the magic of Flocke dissappeared. The island probably would have been destroyed, but I doubt the world would have if Flocke left. I guess living 2000 years with the guilt of killing your brother can make one a little nutty.

      • Andrew W

        I hadn’t thought about that before, but I agree, it’s a good idea. Especially if you want to continue looking at it in a Christian light (though I think the show really strove to be non-specifically religious), Jacob seems like the Old Testament god as opposed to the New. The change from a violent, vengeful, punishing god to one of compassion.

      • PLK

        I don’t know. I can’t help but think of Lord Acton’s famous line, “power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Were the MiB to get off the island, he would not become a gentle lamb and use his powers for good. He’d been corrupted, partly twisted by his dysfunctional childhood, partly by his imprisonment and partly by his power. Someone with that kind of power let loose in our world would only bring misery on a scale not to be imagined.

    • Hutchy

      I totally agree. I think Jacob’s mother had her own reasons for keeping MIB on the Island (because he was a possible candidate to replace her) and this was twisted into Jacob’s mind that he was somehow a threat. I think the great tragedy of all this was, absolutely nothing would have happened if MIB had made it off the Island.

      • ani

        absolutely agree. i dont necessarily think MIB was bad. of course, i’m assuming that MIB is the soul of Jacob’s brother. he just wanted to leave, much like all the castaways did. i was wondering…if Jacob throwing his brother into the light caused this separation of soul and body (if i’m even interpreting that properly), why didn’t anything similar happen when desmond and jack went down there?

      • JMack

        maybe because jack was the jacob now and he made up his own rules regarding what happens to people when they go down the waterfall– a more trusting rulemaker than Jacob and Jacob’s stepmother.

      • Cheryl

        I think the MIB was a bad dude, through and through. Whether it was from his childhood issues or whatever. we never saw him do a positive thing. And he was absolutely CRUEL at times when it really wasn’t necessary. Like mocking the dead Locke, and threatening to torture Rose and Bernard. He was BAD!!! He needed to stay there on the island.

    • Klyph

      Yep. I think basically they were fighting someone else’s “war” that really wasn’t a war to begin with… was a family argument that got blown out of proportion. What would be the harm in MIB becoming mortal again? Apparently nothing but him dying and Jacob living forever…..alone.

      • mari

        yes i agree. remember when miles noticed some strands of gray hair on alpert. he didn’t have the “normal” human reaction. he was actually happy because it meant that he was mortal again and would one day meet up with the ones he loved.

    • Doc Raider

      Klyph — love it — and TOTALLY agree with the notion of people actually THINKING FOR THEMSELVES!!!! Wow… imagine, not being spoon fed all the answers and using your brain!

    • me

      I think the preservation of the Light is very important to both timelines. Without it the happy ending of meeting up with loved ones to Remember, Let go, and Move on doesn’t take place.

    • MDS

      I think it’s fair to assume that Jacob had no idea what would happen if he unplugged the cork. All he knew was what “mother” told him, that the light had to be protected.

    • Linda

      I had a different take away. I thought that the stuff from Mother Eve and Jacob about letting the light go out meant that then they would never be able to meet up in the ending. If the light went out, “everyone you ever loved would cease to exist” is what they said, and I took that to mean that the memories/reunion aspect would ahve been lost and none of them would have gotten their final peace.

      • Caryn

        Linda – very good take on the light going out and loved ones ceasing to exist. Not sure I would have thought of that but it’s a very satisfying answer.
        I think we have to remember that “mother eve” gave jacob and mib simplistic answers because they were childlike and perhaps she was too.

  • April

    I can’t stop thinking about this episode. I thought it was fantastic. For some reason I think the moving on part was for the viewer also. I know I need to move on with my life now that the show is over.

    I’m just gonna miss it so much…

    • Ammu


    • LGee

      Oh I agree! I was on pins and needles last night on how all this was going to end. I was broken hearted knowing they all died BUT at least they were ALL together in the after life. Wonderful ending

  • Ole Chr

    Witnessing all the characters conclusions in the sideways universe (or should I call it the Limbo universe now? :P) and its powerful messages of redemption, enlightenment, hope, love and how to let go – did, for me, lesser the importance of all the unanswered questions.

    It solidified Lost’s message so beautifully, and it couldn’t had ended any better!

    Thank you Lost!

    • KWise

      Well said – I totally agree!

  • Kevin

    I’ll take the island stuff… the “sideways” afterlife nonsense I’ll pretend never happened.

    • nudgey

      spoken like a true athiest, lol

      • Jimmy

        I am a true athiest and had no problem with the sideways world. Athiests can still understand the emotional impact of myth. I found the ending to be truly beautiful. One not need to believe in a god to find value in Lost.

      • JC

        I also am a true athiest and loved the sideways ending. Just because I don’t believe in some all-powerful being sitting up in the clouds controlling all our lives does not mean I don’t believe in the power of love and friendship and struggle and redemption and faith in each other as fellow human beings. I can just as easily see the bright light at the end as a metaphor for final truth and enlightenment as you can for “heaven” or the “afterlife.”

    • Tina


      • Joseph

        In a way the sideways-world didn’t happen.

      • jinq2

        @Jimmy: Thank you for your comment. I was thinking last night that everyone would interpret the show through the filter of their own beliefs, and wondered what an atheist perspective would be. To me, love and what I call God are irrevocably entwined, so I was thinking that someone who did not believe in God would find no beauty in the ending. I’m glad to be wrong in your case!

      • tvgirl48

        I’m an atheist so I know this colored my viewing. I was thrilled with the Sideways world being the fulfillment of the lives they were meant to have with ppl they loved. For me, a truly happy ending was about them getting that life and not about them ascending into the mystical light. It bothered me that the Sideways world wasn’t real.

    • kattykat246

      Poor Kevin… sounds like you need to visit a certain island…

      • Kevin

        No, just don’t need to live life with the hopes that someday I’ll be reunited with the ones that I love in an afterlife so that I can finally appreciate them the way that I SHOULD have during life.

    • RubixCubical

      Yeah I’m sorry…I was down with a reincarnation theory, but to render the sideways world (after just getting into it) heaven’s meeting place??? Why would characters like Boone only want to meet these people? Their souls had no other investments in other family, friends, etc. Where was Jack’s mom, Hurley’s dad, Ethan etc??? Do thirty people per generation get a shot a redemption via limbo magic, whilst everyone else zaps straight to their afterlife? WAY too many holes in this conclusion.

      • Dan

        My main complaint with the church redemption site was this: all the characters were in couples (Jack & Kate; Sawyer & Juliette; Jin & Sun; Rose & Bernard; Libby & Hurley; etc) except for Boone. Why was he there? Alternatively, since not everybody in the church was on the Oceanic flight (Juliette, Desmond & Penny), why weren’t Miles, Charlotte, Daniel, Richard, Lapidus also in the church? That is my only confusion, but I’m not letting it ruin the finale for me.

      • STG

        Exactly…why are all these people satisfied with the ending? Do you not realize this episode was just the finale of sideways world? There were 5 other seasons plus half of this season they did not conclude. They made up sideways world a couple months ago and for some reason people are content with only finding out the purpose of this small part of the entire show.

      • c

        It’s not that the people on the plane were not choosing to spend eternities w/ their families. This was a show about these people and how they all helped each other go to heaven. This was Jack’s welcoming party-not the sum total of all the people they would be with. What a boring scene it would have been if the church had been filled with hundreds of characters we had never met just so you could all think they were spending time with their extended families. No need to see Sawyer’s cousins!

      • Celeste

        Some people believe that souls collectively gather in the “ether” – as it were – and make a choice to incarnate together on earth in order to advance their enlightenment and move forward on a soul level through trials and tribulations on earth. But, just because say, Hurley’s mom was his mom in this lifetime, doesn’t necessarily mean her soul was part of the collective choice. These particular souls chose to go through this unique experience together, and now they may be moving on either to another incarnated lifetime, or “heaven” itself.

      • Nick

        Jack’s dad told him that the important time in his life was when he was with these people…including Boone. Everyone else’s most important time was other times. Think about Charlotte and Daniel – they were only on the island for a short while at the end of their life…maybe their most important time was before the island. And I think Richard’s most important time speaks for itself. That’s why they weren’t in the church. I’m not sure yet, but I think what we were watching was Jack’s version of heaven/purgatory, which wouldn’t have included people like Hurley’s dad. Maybe Hurley had his own church.

      • byrnsie

        everyone wasn’t there because the island wasn’t their ‘defining moment’. Ben was living a valuable life with Alex and Roussea, Michael and Walt had a new life together off island…Boone, Shannon etc had nothing of value until the island. Penny and Desmond were able to be together because of island happening…..

      • Wendy

        I think they were “Jack’s people”. Jack’s mom and Grandfather should have been there, but that’s nitpicking.

      • Dogboy

        Well said Nick. That interpretation makes the finale make more sense (looking at the series as Jack’s story)

      • Miguel

        Not that their souls weren’t invested in their family. Simply what Christian said to Jack this was the most important time of their lives so they choose to meet in a sort of limbo all together before they moved on to Heaven or Afterlife to be with their other loved ones. That’s how I took it anyway. There are certain junctures in life that determine who you are or who you’re going to be. This was a juncture in all their lives that affected them the most therefore they reunited in Sideways world, ie Limbo, to pass on to whatever is after life.

      • boocat

        I am certain the church was the same church where the Losties were with Faraday’s mom and where she explained what the island was and how they had to go back. To me ending it there was very significant.

      • fg

        My problem was with baby Aaron being there. Didn’t he ever grow up,have his own life? Why was he destined to enter the afterlife with the people who were most important to his mother?

      • sdm

        @FG baby Aaron wasn’t there technically. Claire just had him and that is what connected she and Charlie, but he wasn’t in the church, so he either wasn’t dead yet, not ready to move on or already moved on.

      • Kristen

        Boone was there because Jack watched him die because he couldn’t save him.

      • kbs

        There are plenty of people way more invested in friends than family. The island is where they became who they were. Sawyer was able to love because of the island, Kate became a mother because of the island, even Charlie was redeemed because of it. The island is the most significant event in their lives. How could it not be.

      • ani

        at Celeste: very interesting ideas about the souls that travel together. i’ll have to think about that.
        at Nick: your interpretation is exactly how I saw it as well. This is Jack’s story, his afterlife.

      • kyle


        michael’s most important time WAS on island…unfortunatly for him he is stuck there and thats why he wasnt in the church

      • RubixCubical

        Great comments everyone. Like a fine wine this finale has already gotten better with age. My resolution of the Michael situation is this: We never really knew that ghost Michael wasn’t just Smokie all along. In fact we know that Smokie acted as Isabella to persuade Richard, so perhaps he transformed into Michael to get Hurley to march everyone into the submarine trap. Furthermore, Michael might be awaiting his own “awakening” in limbo land. It seems Desmond jolted every soul he could in the time he had.

      • ALM

        @Dan: Locke was “un-coupled”, too. My take on the church was that the group wasn’t necessarily complete; remember how they all sat down on the pews, as if to wait? There were more people to come…

      • Liked the Finale but wanted Answers

        Actually, Aaron was in the church. They showed Charlie holding him while Claire stood next to them. But just because he was there doesn’t mean he crossed over with them. As you said, he probably wasn’t the real Aaron anyway. He was probably just a construct of the sideways world, like Jack’s son, meant to enlighten Kate, Claire and Charlie.

    • A

      I’m atheist but I still loved the finale. I don’t think you have to be religious to like the show or like the idea of everyone having some community after they die with all the ones they love. Personally I think you just end up in a hole in the ground, but it’s still a nice concept. How I will miss Lost.

      • MDS

        Agreed. I have no problem with spirituality in my fiction.

      • Kevin

        There were always religious undertones to the story of LOST and I was always fine with it. My problem is how contrived this season ended up being… the writers and producers threw all of these intriguing plot elements at us (the island is under water! Jack has a son! Nadia is married to Sayid’s brother!) only to eventually thumb their noses at the fans and say, “Haha, we made you wonder what was going on only to eventually tell you that none of this ‘sideways’ stuff was real”. It just feels like they forced it so that they could have a happy reunion type of ending and it really ticks me off.

      • ani

        I am confused about my own religious views..I’m not quite sure if I have any. This doesn’t mean that I’m incapable of thinking about it, pondering over the purpose of life or the existence of souls, God/Gods, alternate planes of existence, heaven/hell, eternity. Although, I do sometimes think that when you die…you’re dead. done and done. But that’s depressing. Regardless, I actually appreciated how the series ended. I think it’s thought-provoking and open to interpretation. But…it would be nice to know more about some of the crazy sh*t that happened.

    • Amy Leigh

      I’m with you. I thought the Sideways world was an absolute copout and I was right to hate it from the start. I honestly don’t care about whether or not every single question was answered b/c that leaves it open for my interpretation. Ending in the sideways world was the equivalent of ending with the words “And they lived happily ever after”. I wanted to see what so many characters had sacrificed their lives for and we didn’t get that. We got them all being happy together once they’ve died (whenever that may be) and going to heaven together. It was such a letdown.

      • myopinion

        They didn’t end in the sideways world!

      • Amy Leigh

        @myopinion: Oh, good God. It ended with Jack closing his eyes and all of them going to heaven. Either way having a reunion in sideways world and them going to the light was bs. I’m glad you liked it b/c I’m on the other end of the spectrum and I hated it.

      • Tommaayy!!

        It was a lot like the ending of “Return of the Jedi” except no Ewoks!

      • Sab

        I agree, I was so let down when I first figured out where they were going with the ending of this story. I spent 6 years following the story and for what to find out that they all died in the end. When Kate was on the View last week she said that the story ending would not be a cop out. She lied.

    • darenwang

      The overarching theme of Lost was faith vs. reason. Initially Jack was reason, whereas Locke was faith. But Jack has a spiritual conversion, and ends up a believer. His comment to Flocke “I’d tell John he was right about just about everything” cements that.
      The overtones of limbo, faith, and forgiveness were what drove the character development, and were manifested in the sideway scenes.
      If you ignore those, you’re kind of missing what the whole journey was about.

  • Fisher

    All I kept telling my friends that Jack was the obvious choice so it should really be someone else like kate or Hurley. So I couldn’t help but laugh at Smokey’s comment to Jack. “That doesn’t seem like Jacob at all. It’s so obvious.” LOL! I was so happy to find out that it was a team effort. Each person had a part to play and in the end it was Hurley, the heart of the show, that became the island protector. Loved it!

    • Hutchy

      It was always going to be Hurley, I think. Who was the one Jacob talked to and mentored throughout this season? Remember after the Lighthouse incident, where Jack was sitting alone and Jacob was talking to Hurley? “Sometimes they need to just work things out?” We all assumed he was talking about Jack, but I think he was showing Hurley how to deal with people when you have this huge power.

      • Miguel

        I agree completely. It was always meant to be Hurley the one who never felt like he had a purpose and the one who could see and speak to the dead and who Jacob came to. I love how in the sideways world once he remembered everything how he was more sure of himself. Great acting on all parts.

      • PLK

        Miguel, good point. Jack was perfect for the short role he needed to accomplish (as Ben suggested), but Hurley was most assuredly one of the best protectors yet. He had the heart, the selflessness, the lack of crushing guilt and the spiritual sensitivity to be a “great #1″. No doubt, at some point in the afterlife, Jacob approaches Hurley and says, “Wow, so that’s how it’s done. Well done Hugo!”

  • Snarf

    What a gyp. I feel cheated. The series finale for Land of the Lost was better. Seriously.

    Super 8 and the next Star Trek movie better be freaking awesome or it’s over between me and Abrams.

    • Teddy C

      No one cares dude…snaaarrrfff snnnaarrrfff.

      • esquirrel

        Oh Lion-O, snarf!

    • nodnarb

      LOL at Abrams. You haven’t been watching this show for years, have you?

    • Kevin

      Abrams had NOTHING to do with the finale or pretty much anything about LOST since season 1.

    • ltmcdies

      haven’t seen an episode til last night..right

    • Kevin from Philly

      If you want a reason to hate Abrams, buy a copy of “Flashforward” when it comes out. Now THAT is a dog of a TV show.

  • steve

    miserable ending. end of story.

    • Celia

      Miserable as in bad or miserable as in sad?

    • Tina

      miserable as in how the hell could they end such a fabulous show in that way? not a hater, just so DISAPPOINTED! It wasn’t like we were watching Lost, it was like a soap opera

    • tipsy

      I`m with you. can`t believe people are gushing over this overlong Jacob`s Ladder rip-off. So they are all dead but after 6 seasons of trying to leave the island (read: not letting go), they finally learned to let go and accept they are dead. How unoriginal. No, seriously, BSG has pulled such quasi-metaphysical stuff when they realized there was no way to wrap all threads. So this time around, we get another, nah, unanswered questions are not what this is all about, freindship is what this is all about and they are friends in etherinity. Major eye-roll. Especially in the season that totally forgot about characters and gave them nothing to do.

      • psb2009

        Tipsy- you’re another who missed it. They weren’t dead on the island! Jack died at the end, the rest before or after him. The light was love! The island was love! They came together at the end, after death, because of love!

      • Will

        Dude, you totally didn’t get it. They weren’t dead on the island for 6 seasons. They were dead, OFF the island for one. Everything that happened the first 5 seasons and half of season 6 really happened.

      • dumbassfireball

        The majority of people who didn’t like the ending didn’t actually understand it.

      • STG

        @Will: I get it and am still mad they made up sideways world a couple months ago and made a finale about that and not the island and where they were for 90% of the show. And why was everyone happy to realize they were dead? Jin and Sun were super glad they were dead.

      • cookie126


        Actually Jacob’s Ladder is a ripoff of An Occurence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce. That was a wonderful short story. But I have to say that I still loved Jacob’s Ladder.

      • Amy Leigh

        I immediately thought of the massive disappointment that was the BSG finale once Lost was over last night. Both wonderful, epic shows that had such bad endings.

      • ktrain

        @dumbassfireball: exactly. thank you.

      • Lizzie

        Island world was real, Sideways World was the “Way Station” which is timeless. They all meet up and move on together. When they died in Lost World, they really died. But when they met up in Sideways World, they were getting ready to move on. That is why Kate said she had missed Jack so much – she lived a long life after leaving the island.

      • @dumbassfireball

        I completely agree. I didn’t fully understand it, but I was close enough. I loved the finale. It was really confusing, even to people who watched the show religiously.

      • ltmcdies

        seems a lot of people either didn’t really listen to Christian Sheppard or didn’t catch the Hurley – Ben interaction about Ben a great number 2.
        It’s one thing to not like an ending but really…get the basics right

      • leo

        @STG – agreed. it bugs me when the people who like the ending say this was a character driven show. the island was the biggest character of all, the driving force for all the other characters, and after five seasons of mysteries, to end the series with something they made up in season six, makes the last five season meaningless. if we’re going to watch the entire series again from season one to the finale, why bother making sense of the mysteries because that doesn’t matter any more. i was OK with the characters getting their ending, but this show was created on the equal premise of intellectual science-fiction and emotional drama, and the writers completely bailed on the former. i’m not angry about it, i’m just disappointed that they didn’t even try.

    • RubixCubical

      I’m sorry…I was down with a reincarnation theory, but to render the sideways world (after just getting into it) heaven’s meeting place???

      Why would characters like Boone only want to meet these people? Their souls had no other investments in other family, friends, etc??? Where was Jack’s mom, Hurley’s dad, Ethan etc???

      Do thirty people per generation get a shot a redemption via limbo magic, whilst everyone else zaps straight to their afterlife? No explanation for time travel, agelessness, or Desmond’s constant mind jumping. Why does Ben deserve to meet this group and not Micheal? Terrible ending. WAY too many holes in this conclusion.

      • Ole Chr

        Jacks mom never had a connection to the island community where they swore an oath to never die alone.

        Ben chose to stay, meaning he still needs to earn his redemption for doing all his horrible things. I think he still thinks he has an obligation to provide for the Roussau family.

        Michaels soul is either still trapped on the island doing his whispering thing or he is somewhere in the “limboways” universe not ready (like ana lucia) to “move on”.

        So there you go!

      • RubixCubical

        To Ole Chr: So you’re saying the sideways world IS real and that the characters could choose to stay??? Ben is the only one with a reason to see out his redemption??? What about Locke’s “You don’t have a son” comment? Why wouldn’t Michael have the same redemption after blowing himself up on the freighter to save the others (Sayid got HIS). Just bogus.

      • boocat

        All of them had a need for redemption in their miserable real lives. I cannot believe that alot of people commenting just didn’t get it and get why all of these people happened to wind up together. I suggest you all start over with the first episode and watch it again. It was a perfect ending in my view.

      • RubixCubical

        What some of us don’t “get” is that the justification for redemption…rather the reward/damnation for each character was hardly consistant in the end.

        It does seem that Nahomi’s comment to Miles during recruitment (“There’s an island with a bunch of dead people running around…”) may come into play with the “they all died in the original crash” idea, but the arcs for each character had no consistant value. Why was Juliet forced to go through this for example??? What about the characters who were born on the island, like Ethan? Was Miles really dead when reconciling with his dad in the 70s?

        I’m sure there are a dozen other sideways/limbo arcs that were not shown or relevant to Jack’s awakening, but presentation of what was “real” on this show turned out to be a series of mismatched smoke and mirrors.

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