Jon Gosselin dug himself into a deep hole this morning on Good Morning America with a clip of him saying of his wife Kate, “I despise her.” But during tonight’s full-length version of that interview, shown as part of ABC’s Primetime: Family Secrets, Gosselin probably only made things worse for himself. Talking about his girlfriend Hailey Glassman, he said, “I love her more than I did Kate.”
Jon told interviewer Chris Cuomo, “I was abused. I went through therapy.” His message to Kate via the cameras? “Help me out. Go to therapy. Give me closure.”
“We were a better team before [Jon & Kate Plus Eight],” he told Cuomo on Tuesday night:
And indeed, it did sound pretty crass that the only therapy Kate would agree to was the celebrity kind: with Dr. Phil, said Jon. “I said, ‘Huh?’… It was all about protecting the brand [of Jon & Kate Plus Eight].” Jon declined to meet with Dr. Phil, who gave ABC a terse, “No comment.”
Jon’s comments today allowed Kate the opportunity to issue a classy-sounding response, saying, “For the sake of my children I maintain that I’m not going to go into details of aspects I believe should remain private.”
Here’s the thing: as those of us who used to watch Jon & Kate Plus Eight with pleasure during their rosy days know, Jon was always uncomfortable and less articulate in front of the cameras. That’s why Kate’s the one pursuing a TV career, such as her upcoming guest-host stint on The View.
To his credit, Cuomo quietly but persistently tried to point out to Jon, again and again, where he may be going off the rails. But what can you do with a guy who tells you one moment he’s been drinking a lot, and in the next breath says, “My father was an alcoholic,” that his grandfather was an alcoholic, and he knows he doesn’t want to inherit the disease?
Jon seems to tend toward making bad decisions, such as seriously considering a Divorced Dads Club show with Michael Lohan and Kevin Federline. “I don’t know,” he said when Cuomo asked if he was going to do that project. “That’s why I have a legal team. I might not be able to do it.” For his own sake and his kids, let’s hope someone prevents that.
Did you watch? What do you think of Jon Gosselin’s big media day?
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I just finished wathcing the interview, and I have to completely disagree with you Mr. Tucker. If anything it was an outlet for Jon to explain himself. Is Kate more articulate? Yes, however I get more of a sincerity in what Jon says than Kate who comes across as more calculated in what she says. I can understand why Jon would “despise” Kate. For years, she was verbally hostile to him on national TV, talked down to him, basically pigeonholed Jon into a life that he didn’t want for himself and when he said that he no longer wanted to do the show anymore, she disregarded his opinion. This is just a horrible situation and I just feel sorry for the kids and hope that it doesn’t get to the point where the have to pick a parent. As far as the whole alcoholic point of the interview, he did admit to drinking because of the stress of the situation he went through, but then stopped because alcoholism ran in his family and didn’t want his kids to go through that. I admire that he was honest about that and admit that he has made mistakes and is not perfect. If Kate can do all these interviews, why can’t Jon do one?
He should never talk badly about the mother of his kids. If he wasn’t pathetic and much less than a man, than Kate wouldn’t have treated him like the dog he is. I hope he finds God and I hope when his kids are old enough to jump online and see the things he said that they find it in their hearts to forgive his year of pathetic temper tantrums.
I dont think him “finding god” really has anything to do with it, finding god doesnt necessarly make you a better person. Why does the mother of the children get off easier? She hasn’t made mistakes? I think her comment about not making things public is a riot considering she’s the one who talks to the media-people, the view, larry king…maybe she should “find god?”
Contrary, I think that his actions now ARE being a man; a man who’s tired of being treated like less of a man. It’s a painful lesson that he had to go through in order to grow a spine, but he’s doing it. I’ve watched the show a few times, and every time I saw just how horrible of a mother Kate really is. I feel sorry for the 8 kids if they learn from her. They’re going to grow up being shallow and bitchy to everyone they meet.
I think the issue here isn’t who did what, but the fact that his children will one day see this. It’s bad enough having memories of your parents being cruel(verbally or otherwise) to each other, but to have it on tape will probably take it to another level. Isn’t divorce enough for the children to deal with? Now public mud-slinging?? And having a record of your dad saying he loves his new girlfriend more than he ever did you mother? God help this family, most especially the children!
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I’ve never seen the show, but what you said is *exactly* what I was thinking when I read this article. I mean, seriously? Those two should just keep their mouths shut and stick to lawyers if that’s what’s necessary. Both Jon AND Kate (though Jon’s taking it to a new level). Even if they don’t intend it, their kids are going to side with one parent or the other if this keeps going. Kids aren’t dumb. They’ll remember tension in the family and seeing/hearing these types of things will only alienate them from their father. It doesn’t matter if Jon feels he needs to “explain his side”. His kids deserve a father they can love and trust more than he needs public understanding. Way to go, Jon, way to go.
you would not say that if he was the girl and a man had been treating her that way.
Your comment is awful!!! I was married for 21 years until my husband traded me in for a younger version. I went through the “running period” .. very common for a person married for some time. You want to find someone who thinks you are ‘neat’.
Jon was abused terribly on National TV. If Kate were the man and Jon the woman, how do you think NOW and other women’s lib groups would have responded to Kate hitting him all the time! Kate putting him down every opportunity! Kate telling him he is not good looking (“get your teeth fixed”)! Kate telling him he had bad breath??!! All of this on Nat’l TV. I man would never have gotten away with it, but Kate gets support from people like you??? She’s a first class bitch and deserves NO sympathy. Mark my words…once a hitter (as we saw every episode with her hitting Jon and Emeril), always a hitter. Some photos are coming out with her hitting the kids. More will come out soon.
If he “found god,” then he’d be just another brainwashed moron… Oh, wait… Nevermind. He already found the TV execs and sponsors. Who needs god when you have a brand?
So good Christians call other people pathetic and provide further derogatory comments? Perhaps, Kat, your excuse is that you are human and like all humans you make mistakes and this is why Jesus died for you… So you can continue to be petty and sink to the same low you accuse others of sinking to… Thanks for your comments. Now go back to church and pray for forgiveness for not turning the other cheek hypocrite.
Why don’t you all get off your high horses out there. They have both made mistakes, however, take a minute and realize who really matters here – its the 8 kids that do. I don’t like there methods at all but I don’t believe Jon either, why didn’t he get out before if he was so “abused” sounds like wanting sympathy to me.
don’t forget that Kate talke very badly *TO* the father of her kids, right in front of their faces, and on national TV for years. you’re using a blatant double-standard.
So Kat, it is ok to treat people like “the dog” they are, as long as they deserve it? Wow. If that is what finding “God” taught you, I hope he stays lost for me for a good long time. Golden Rule much?
hurray for you!!! Jon has become some weird person that’s always in the paper trying to get some attention–trouble is, he gets BAD
sttention. He belongs with Lohan, at least Federline is taking care of his kids, Kate doesn’t need any help from “poor me.”
I totally agree. If Jon had a backbone, he would have stood up to Kate. It was obvious that she had little-to-no respect for him; he’s aimless, shiftless, and totally unable to support his children. That’s why she stepped in and took over. Now with all this whining, it’s very clear why Kate was abusive toward him–he’s useless and should just shut up and go away.
Leave God out of this. He doesn’t need to find God, he needs to find a really good PR person. If I was in his situation and stuck with that snide monster in human skin that gave birth to his kids, I would have run screaming too. Do you really think it’s better for her to talk constant crap about him TO HIS FACE and on national television and IN FRONT OF THOSE KIDS
Hey Kat, when you find God, send him around to Jon and Kates a miracle may take place.
Ok, as a fellow Christian, I need to call you out. You can’t call another human being a dog and pathetic and say they deserved to be treated a certain way, then say HE is the one that needs to find God.Both of them are Christians, they already know where God is, they need to LISTEN to their hearts and stop all of this foolishness. Read your bible sweetheart, and reconnect with Him and you will see that your comment was backwards and uncalled for. Now you are going to be having people attack all Christians because of your ignorant comment. Regardless of the type of person he is, NO ONE deserves to be treated less than human, plain and simple. Personally, I feel that both parents need to cancel the show and stay out of the limelight FOREVER…
Pathetic? A Dog? YOU need to find God.
It doesn’t matter what he thinks or what she actually did, Jon, my man, stop with the bashing your soon to be ex wife on national TV. Your kids will have to watch this. Take the high road man and how about you just move on. You tell Kate too, well dammit man it doesn’t look like you are. I don’t think your in love with that young um woman, its more lust. Think of your children and stop the madness.
Tom hit the nail on the head.
I remember once when a dad was saying something bad about the mom and the little kid said, “you are talking about someone I love.” You can’t forget that part. So I feel Jon has all the right in the world to vent. But…that one part is still there. He is talking about a person that the children love.
If you watched the show then you’ll see the guy was constantly run into the ground by his wife. If you listened and watched to events that happened after Kate comes across as someone who craves the spotlight. She is EVERYWHERE doing interviews. Yet, this guy does one freaking interview and you’re talking BS? Why? Why can’t he state his opinions? I watched that dude keep his mouth shut for years, now he says something and he has to act classy? Why? The only reason why you even know him to judge him is because his wife forced him to create a show about his family. How would you handle people seeing your wife talk down to you on national TV? He’s only human, it’s hard not to take jabs at Kate.
If you watched the show, then you’ll see the guy behaved like child #9, or #1 as the case may be. Kate behaved like someone frustrated to the gills with having to be the only adult in a full house. If you watch/listen to Kate in the interviews she does, she takes the high road. He behaves like the 30+ year old baby he is. You watched the dude keep his mouth shut? You watched a whole bunch of passive-aggression.
Nick, he can state his opinion, and people can react to it. It seems fairly simple to me. The majority of people had a negative reaction to his interview. No one forced him to do an interview or say what he said. He is a grown man who is making his own decisions. I happen to think he is making poor decisions, but it isn’t my life, and those aren’t my kids.
Stop putting the children on a friggin pedastal. They are more camera savy than any of us reading this. They’ll be fine.
Bravo Jenny. You are exactly correct. Kate completely wore Jon down. She was very verbally MEAN to him on most every show.
I have seen this type of relationship before; the guy provokes without being seen, and the woman reacts with anger and gets jumped all over for it. Jon is supposed to have been a Christian, and yet he’s screwing around, drinking, etc; acting like a 12 year old. Kate is acting her age in being mature and like the Christian she is, she weighs her words. John spends money on his mistress, Kate spends it on a trust fund for the kids. Character counts; and we can see who has poor character in this family; truth will show it. Been there, experienced that. Enough of the Christian bashing!
When she was “wearing him down” it kept him in line and he appeared to be one of the favorite dad’s in the country. Once her thumb was off, he turned into a total d-bag. Perhaps she knew something the rest of us didn’t, his true character.
Then why didn’t he stop it a long time ago? Do you have the answer to that one? Yes she talked down to him a lot but why wait all this time to do or say something? I don’t believe Kate “made” him do the show, geesh did he ever think for himself? You all are something else.
In exchange for not having to think or run his own life, Jon handed everything over to Kate. Part of the deal was that she’d tell him what to do and think. Sometimes she’d get b*tchy and sick of it. Sometimes she’d go too far. But he lapped it up. Then one day, while staying at his Mom’s, he went out for a drink–like the old days. Since Kate would never let him drink or hang out with single college girls, Jon decided to take back his life. And rather than be an inspiration to all around him, he decided to be a d*bag. That’s why we don’t care about what he has to say.
I have had an uneasy feeling for a couple of years that there was a reason for Kate’s obvious distain for Jon. It did NOT start out that way. So when did Kate have her tummy tuck done by Hailey’s dad? I think it was in the second season. Perhaps the wild child, Hailey was a issue in the marriage long before it became tabloid news. Jon is acting like a horny teenager who is on a path of alcoholism, just like his dad and grandfather. Very sad.
I couldn’t agree more!!
I thought for a dirtbag, he came across, well, like a dirtbag.
Well put!
I totally agree!
You know I cannot begin to outline why this interview was wrong. This man should just keep his mug off the TV. We can clearly see he cares nothing for his children if he did he would be finding closure on his own and not asking his soon to be ex-wife for it. With what morality will he approach his kids later? He is nothing more than a never was, I would say has been but lets be honest, the children were and continue to be the stars of that show. I do not blame Kate, someone has to be the adult in a house with 9 children, yes I said it, Jon is a child, a big child suffering from not only verbal diarrhea but also a mental block, maybe from drinking so much and smoking pot with his soul mate. How can someone be your soul mate when they do not instill in you some sort of sense of responsibility to your children, some respect for the mother of your children. No matter how you feel about Kate, she is and will always be the mother of your children and if you know what is good for you, you will keep that trap of yours shut and go with the flow. Do it for your kids you selfish douche bag. I mean really, listen to yourself. Take off those silly earrings, get a job and start paying child support. You worthless waste of space. Kate you are better off than this spineless dirt bag. Good luck girl!
kate or alexandra, i knew you would be commenting on this subject. Here’s a thought “go look after your kids.” Jon man up and TLC cancel the show.
As the father of two children who tried to “take the high road” and not speak poorly of the mothier of his children I can honestly say that you have no idea what you are talking about. I took the high road for years while my ex-wife behaved exactly like Kate – making all kinds of veiled remarks and trying to be the victim. It finally got to the point where I just started being honest about her and you know what – my kids eventually saw her for exactly who she is and they both ended up living with me. Same with all of our friends – none of them speak to her anymore. I think Kate will be the same. Sorry, but to only want to go to therapy on National TV says way more about her than anything he can say about himself. And sorry, she isn’t acting like an “adult” – she is a fame seeking media wh*re monger. If she didn’t want to be a mom she should have never manufactured those children. Oh, and John had a job and supported them just fine until she decided she needed to be on TV and travel all over – he had to quit to take care of the kids because she couldn’t.
This has to be one of the dumbest comments I’ve ever read.
Deb — Here’s a thought: Go back to GWOP. Not everyone who disagrees with your perspective is Kate. If you’d open your eyes you’d be amazed at the big world out there — one with diverse people with diverse opinions. Don’t be scared.
I am totally done with their show and have removed it from Tivo. It’s a shame we have to have reality shows such as theirs. What a sham with their wedding renewal in Hawaii – they are both into this for the $$$$$$$ I feel sorry for their kids.
Ugly Jenny is an idiot – you probably have never had kids of your own. When children are involved you work with your partner to ensure their well-being. Even though my husband is no saint, I would NEVER bad-mouth him publicly because ultimately, he is the father of my childern and as such deserves my respect. Also, when a father starts abandoning his responsibilities and acting like a baby, a strong woman is going to call him on it. He may not want to hear it, but it needs to be said. It may ultimately lead to the destruction of the relationship, but a woman should not have to put up with a man who would rather be out clubbing with little girls than at home helping with the family. Jon needs to grow the eff up, because the day will come that he will regret his decisions and it will be his children that resent him. Interestingly, just a couple of months ago, I was totatlly sympathetic to Jon even though I could relate to Kate. Now I see that she was dealing with a complete a-hole and I don’t blame her for treating him like the piece of crap that he is!
Hmmm- Anne what happened to “ultimately, he is the father of my children and as such deserves my respect.”? This man took verbal abuse from his wife for years. He could NEVER do anything right in her eyes. I think he made a big mistake in taking his anger public and I think he will regret his decision in time. I do think he has the right to be angry, though. As far as the children go- I think they will resent BOTH their parents for their behavior. I kind of feel sorry for Kate because kids of control freak parents tend to rebel at some point.
Kate a strong woman? Jon not being responbile? Kate has been making the rounds and telling everyone how heart broken she is. On Larry King she paused for a long time and finally said Jon is a good parent she thinks. She either knows or doesn’t what a slam at the kids father. Jon up until now always said Kate was a good mother. Kate told him to leave and people who are getting on his case for having his toys, sports car, bike etc forget that Kate has been caught with her own flashy 2 seater car, she gets more free stuff than anyone around. Rcall Kate crying that she was gone so often the kids called her by the nanny’s name. She quickly changes subject or refers back to TLC on anything she does not want to answer. Going to Dr. Phil to fix your image not your marriage is sad and shows how willing Kate was to continue the lie. Also many people have said Maddy is mean, cruel and selfish and Kate on camera said Cara is gentle, easy going and kind like Jon while Maddy is more like her. He was at home with the kids until Kate told him to get out SHE was done with the marriage. Clearly not the money.
Anne – your intelligence level is a bit in the zero side… open your eyes woman….Sad…
Jon is a whiny loser. Sincerety… you cannot be serious? He was the one saying he wanted to quit the show and how he didn’t like all the attention but for some odd reason since they announced their divorce he is the only one hanging out in front of the house entertaining the papparazi and dating tabloid reporters. He is full of it and needs to grow up.
Well said!!!!
This man is a MESS. On one hand he despises Kate…then admits he was a jealous husband when Kate traveled with her bodyguard…and hints they had an affair. If you do not love your wife…why the jealousy? When he declared that he loves the girlfriend more than he ever did Kate…I lost it! Let’s just buy Jon a pacifier and let him and Hailey suck it out in their playpen!!!
Perhaps you should give Jon advise on where you got your pacifier?
Are you people, simply ‘blind’ as to why this man is as frustrated as he is… He has kept quiet for too long and now he finally took the step of leaving the little witch. All you women (especially) who cannot see that and bring ´God´into this, it makes me think that you too have the possibility of being a ‘Kate’ and that my dears… is scary thought… oooh girls, You need to take a good look at your lives too.
I agree. I watched the show from the beginning primarily for the enjoyment of the children and I found myself squirming in my seat everytime Kate would “go off” on Jon, she did it often – for those of you that attack Jon for his strong feelings about Kate, I say watch the reruns and see for yourself how she treated him. I am just surprised that it took him as long as it did to bail out. I think that what Kate is now saying regarding her marriage and why she still wears her wedding ring is an “act” for public sympathy, for she can’t EVER erase how she treated Jon in front of all our eyes. Nevertheless..I feel bad for the children and wish Jon had worded his dislike of Kate differently on national T.V.
Here’s the thing– Jon really DID NOT explain himself. He cast stones @ the one person he believes made him unhappy. Did Jon’s therapist explain to him that he Jon Gosselin got himself into this mess? Anyone taking responsibility?! They’re both nuts. Why haven’t those kids been taken away? Two words for The Gosselin’s– GAG ORDER! (oh yeah & Jon stop hoeing around until your divorce is close to being final, creep).
This was Jon’s way of putting the balme on Kate. Did she talk negatively to Jon over the years? no doubt! Did he stand there passively and allow her to- you bet! But does that mean that he should go on national television and air their dirty laundry- talk about the mother of his 8 children! NO WAY! I would never- will never- and have never talked poorly about the father of my two children in their presence or where they could or would ever see it. He’s too busy trying to save face and look like a good guy to realise all this will do is make his children resent him someday. When the kids have questions someday all they will need to do is turn to the internet and see what daddy thought of mommy- and how classy mommy was. All they will remember is that mom took them places and did things with them- mom was there for them- and dad was too busy acting like a 17yr old to be a dad and talking about their mom
GROW UP JON!
I think that this show(Jon&Kateplus
was thee WORST show. I watched it once and was appalled at how verbally abusive and mean Kate was to Jon. And I was surprised that Jon never stood up for himself, and was continually beaten down. They both have issues. No wonder now he’s going wild and acting opposite how he did on the show.
I am sure Jon will regret the things he said in this interview down the road. I think both of them should go away and deal with their family in private. And I think it’s horrible that the tv network exploited the divorce this way. But then again, they didn’t have to do it once they were getting divorced. It’s ultimately their decisions, that they will have to live with the consequences. They both need professional therapy — good that Jon’s getting it. And Kate needs a real therapist, not a TV one. And they need couples counciling and family therapy. It’s just a mess and I think both are in the wrong here. Kids will end up seeing the show later and seeing both parents issues.
Jon has all the right in the world to do interviews, but all he did with this interview is talk in circles. I was very confused, as was Chris Cuomo. He would answer the same question 3 different ways..no consistency. It could have been nerves, it could have been frustration in trying to get his point across but this is still too early in the “game” to be bad mouthing anyone…even if the other party is not “playing fair”. I certainly hope that he honesty doesn’t believe himself when he says the kids will not see what he does and have opinions. He said they will see that he has a good heart, etc. But they will also see and hear about the women, the trips, the money being spent, etc. I can see the change in the behavior of the kids already….the twins are much more agressive than they used to be and it is not because they are getting older. They are compensating for what they see and hear their parents do and say…period.
Come on…he is the whole reason they are still in the news. He’s the one calling the media. He is always on the phone in every photo printed. She is clearly the one protecting the privacy of her and her children. Jon is making a fool out of himself and now he’s trying to justify it all with the BS he is now putting out there. He’s an idiot! And seriously, he’s abused?!?!? I’m so sick and tired of these men who whine and cry, “I was so abused” Grow up Jon, take out the studs, give your clothes to some 15 year old boy who should actually be wearing something like that and be a man. You have no CLASS! He is not playing fair. Kate hasn’t once really put him down. It’s not our business anyway. And at least she actually works for a living. He is running out of avenues and his 15 minutes are almost up.
How is she protecting the privacy of her and her children when they still have a television show and she is still giving interviews. People stop kissing Kate’s tush and recognize that they are BOTH bad parents and they BOTH need help. Glad Jon is getting it…
Jon is a tool. His girlfriend will leave him as soon as he is out of money and fame. Kate is by far the better parent! All those who judge her should try taking care of that many little children. I just look atr him and think total tool.
Not a kate fan, however, to me, Jon just seems very immature and selfish. The proper way to have handled Kate would have been to call her out each and everytime she put him down. Everytime she belittled him he should have told her, “Kate, I would really appreciate if you would not treat me this way. I am not a mind reader. Please just let me know what you would like in a pleasant way.” What I see is a man that needs to grow up and act the the father of 8 that he is.
This is coming from the man who just a few months ago was worried about his kids “googling” him some day and reading all the trash. Man up Jon and stop bashing your ex-wife on national TV. How happy will you kids be when they hear you say you “despise” your wife and that you love your much younger girlfriend more than you ever loved the mother of your eight children. You are a dirt bag and deserve all the heartache your girlfriend will surely cause you.
here, here. Well said and right on the money. This guy is a blooming idiot, a hyporcrite and just plain selfish and immature. Yes Kate would come down on him, and I am not justifing her actions over the years, but he just seemed to be such a loser and a jerk. He very frequently said such stupid things. He is showing his true colors now for all to see. Again, I am by no means a Kate fan, but this guy…..
Exzcuses,excuses,if Gosselin knows alcoholism runs in his family than he shouldn’t drink and stop blaming Kate for his insecurities.
I am so tired of all the Kate bashing that has been going on in the media. In the beginning of all this drama, Jon came out saying that he never wanted the media attention and it was not the life for him. However, he has been courting the media in the time since his split was announced. Now, I know Kate has also done interviews. Yet, we don’t see her in the bars, partying it up in Vegas or stating in a well publicized interview that he despises the mother of his children. It seems like he can’t say enough that he had children so young, so many at a young age. Jon…build a bridge & get over it. Quit your whining…be grateful that your children are healthy. Every step of the way, in your life with Kate, you made a choice. You chose to have the children, you chose to let her “run the show”, you chose to separate yourself from your family. You are an adult, you are a man with children…show them that they can respect both their parents. Don’t bash their mother or continually raise the issue that you had kids young & are now trying to have a “life”. Your twins are old enough to see what is on tv & read what you are saying. Are your words about your decisions and choices, the ones you want them to read about & remember? Do you want them to see the pics of you partying it up? stories & pics of you with other women? Jon, have some decorum.
Oh, please. Stop making excuses for this idiot. Poor Jon. My butt. Kate was the only adult in the relationship. He’s a whiny brat, and that family is better off without him. His “soul mate” Haley Glassman will drop his sorry ass as soon as something better comes along, and that should not take a great deal of time!
To me it is obvious what happened in Jon’s life- look at all the old episodes where Kate is screaming at him, belittling him, name calling, faking her OCD for attention-get real lady anxiety is a real issue not something you put on for the world to look cool or whatever, further she did all decision making, talked over him and I never even got to see the guy finish one sentence until she was taken out of the picture entirely! He’s the one who stayed home with the kids all the time without her help- she went on tour, shopped, went to the spa, all kinds of foolishness, could have included husband and kids in her lifestyle but chose her own vanity over family!
People, watch the darn show from early episodes to present, then open your mouths…I don’t feel sorry for anybody here, let’s get real they made a mint off of purveying their dirty laundry and their eight lil blessings for the world, but also, I do not think Jon instigated divorce, cheated on his wife and frankly I see straight through the likes of Kate pandering for pity and attention- she needs to quit climbing and go back to the darn trailor park!
I’ve gotta say it, my first post was really unkind and I should have kept judgment and comments to myself. In actuality none of this is anybody’s business at all. Even while we are feeling sorry for one or the other, or the children, or whatever- and yes, it’s obvious I’m guilty of doing the same as is evident in my prior post- we are all problematic in this unneccessary bashing of a once unified family. We are the ones making the children suffer! WE ARE CONTINUING TO ALLOW THEM TO AIR THEIR DIRTY LAUNDRY BECAUSE WE WATHC, LISTEN, READ, BUY BOOKS, GO TO SPEECHES, WATCH THE TELEVISION SHOWS, BUY THE MAGAZINES, POST COMMENTS AND DISCUSS OPENLY LIKE THIS IS ALL A SPECTATOR SPORT. I ADMIT I AM JUST AS GUILTY OF ALL OF THESE THINGS. HOWEVER, IN READING ALL OF THE POSTS I HAVE TO SAY- HOW WOULD ANY OF US LIKE TO BE IN ANYONE OF THEIR SHOES? THIS IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT, THE TOPIC OF THEIR LIVES SHOULD BE BACK TO PRIVATE AND WE, INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY MYSELF, SHOULD MIND OUR OWN BUSINESS AND LEAVE FINAL JUDGMENT UP TO THE ONLY ONE ABOVE WHO IS SUITED TO SUCH PURPOSES!
So, enough from my own venemous mouth, and enough of my own ascerbic comments…I’m leaving this in their home where it belonged in the first place, I urge others to do the same. If you are truly worried about the children- do what is right and proper- disinclude these antics from your lives as I intend to and simply let their lives go as unnoticed as if they had never engaged in “reality” television.
Living with that nasty shrew would make anyone an alcoholic. But their real problem was churning out a litter of kids they were clearly unprepared for financially and emotionally. If TV hadn’t happened to have come along to bail out their sorry asses, just what were they planning on doing?
They’re both just too stupid for words, He’s weak and stupid, and Kate is a harpy and stupid. God help those poor kids.
Only thing I have to say I’m GLAD Jon has left. I hope the best for him, but also her.
Jon’s not too media savvy, but I get his point, for the most part. Kate is all about “celebrity,” although she’s more notorious than celebrated. She’s always thinking of the bottom dollar and keeping her face in front of the cameras. That’s all she wants, and that’s all she’s about. Fame, money, fake nails, boobs and tan. And getting away with playing the part of a spoiled diva. A talentless glory hound is what she is.
And what is Jon? Is he not all about fame, money, fake hair, hoe bags, designer clothes and booze? He has already said “my whole 20’s were wasted”…on what? Being a husband and father?? HE wouldn’t even see those kids if they weren’t the ones making the money for him to blow. At least she has the sense to know how to take care of her children financially…and everyone who puts her down for that is jealous. She is doing what she has to in order to support her children since he ex Jon has even publicly stated he never wanted that many children. “That many children” are what pays for his pool party and his trips and his booze and his high dollar apartment in NYC…who went public with other women with no regard or respect for his children? and who you say is the glory hound?? yeah right
Jon has a PR firm in NY, he doesn’t have to be media savvy. He’s getting professional advice on his image, should he choose to take it.
Kate did indeed say things to Jon on camera that made me cringe. But that justifies Jon doing the same thing? How was Kate’s behavior then different from Jon’s now?
I know from personal experience that a person can only take so much of anything. I used to watch that show and kate only got worse as time went on. He didn’t handle it right. It happens. But think about it. When he worked he came home and helped with the kids. Same with the weekends. He wasnt gone for weeks at a time. He’s been quiet while Kate’s been milking it for all it’s worth. He got tired of it all. He’s human too. Having 8 kids and a reality show doesn’t mean he should be emotionless and put up with all of it. I feel sorry for the kids. But they’ll see all of mommy’s interviews and behavior too.
If John has a professional PR team he is paying, he needs to fire them quick, and hire a Publicist who is smart enough to make him practice his responses before his interview so he doesn’t go off the rails and say things like he despises the mother of his kids. His children will see that one day, and I feel so bad for them. He faults Kate for not saying things in public that she says to him in private? No Jon, that’s the right thing to do to shield your kids as much as you can.
Please…Jon dissed the media for so long saying he just wanted to be left alone and now suddenly he can’t get enough of them. He even admitted that he was jealous of Kates jet setting life style. Kind of funny the rumor about Kate and the bodyguard leaked out…and I believe Jon was behind that. Funny there aren’t any pictures of it…but plenty of Jon and his NUMEROUS flings.
Jon – be a man. So your ex-wife belittled you… Talked down to you… Yelled at you… It’s your responsibility to say “do not treat me this way” and if she doesn’t change, LEAVE. Well, you did that so MOVE ON. Stop acting like a 17 year old boy. Stop it with the tabloids. You have not endeared anyone to “your side” with your recent dating, drinking and hanging out with Lohan. You are gross. And now, pathetic!
I didn’t hear him say he was jealous. He said that he was home with the kids while she was traveling all the time,she’d come hom unpack and then pack again and leave. He was saying that she got mad at him for not doing anything, and he said he was taking care of the kids. She was travelling.
Very true
If you have watched the shows Jon&Kate plus 8 you will clearly see that Jon was abused by her. She is nothing but a controling witch and yes he was wrong to take it for so long. I think his interviewer came off worse than Jon did. How rude! Kate is playing little miss innocent and now she will take advantage of it because Jon was nervous. She is a phony and I only wish the best for Jon and the kids. Lots of people besides Jon despise this bossy, controlling woman.
You are correct Donna!
She is not playing innocent she has enough since to know that whatever is said and done because their lives are out in the public their children will one day hear and see it all. She seems to have enough love and respect for her children to not want to bash their fathe. I know you all think the way she has talked to him for years has been bashing him but seriously i would have gotten rid of him years ago because he has shown for years that he did not want to be there.
First off, Donna you are an idiot. Jon is not an ABUSED man. I’ve seen abused spouses, verbal and physical. Jon was a man child who didn’t get his way and needed his wife to find it for him. Yes she was terse with him, but if you were married to a man who was your 9th child you would be like her too. The man is a walking contradiction. He’s a family man but employs a bartender to baby sit his kids so he can look at her body… Says he didn’t cheat on his wife but it was pretty apparent that he did. Says he loves his kids, but then goes on TV bashing their mother. He needs to grow up and people like you need to stop encouraging him.
Mackenzie Mai… Without question, the best way to counter a point in a debate is to start off with an insult. Way to go! Your use of the English language is appalling. Please consider going back to school before you accuse others of being idiots.
Love and respect for her kids? Have you seen the shows when Kate makes the comment that little boys are dirty and disgusting. So many times that the girls have been seen pushing away their brothers while making the same comment. In the first show of this season Kate made it clear she will continue to leave the kids to do her job which was book tours even though she gets paid quite well per episode. On TV she keeps saying she is doing it all alone, she has household staff, private chef, laundry crew. I know single mother who do have to go it alone. By the way the twins have said Daddy is the better parent many times. Out of the mouth of babes.
Donna, Jon has passive aggressive issues and completely immature. Kate is aggressive aggressive and saw Jon as one more kid. Editing on those shows does not show the truth so don’t buy into the hype. They are BOTH to blame.
I think Jon would have been better off keeping his mouth shut or at least being respectful. All he did tonight is “dig a deeper hole”! As someone who has seen divorce in the family that involves children there are just some things you dont say……..out of respect for your kids. All of this will be seen someday by them, he is kidding himself if he doesnt think it will. And YES this is effecting your children. He says he doesnt drink, yet has many many photos of him drinking, he says he stays home with his girlfriend watching movies, yet he is jet setting on vacations abroad and having “playboy” parties. He contrdicts what has been proven differently. He is not divorced yet and is IN LOVE with this woman oh excuse me…..22 year old girl. That alone makes what he is doing wrong. I am not saying I think Kate was the best wife, the little bit we seen of what the network chose to show, but he is not handling this well at all if he wants to come out looking good. Sometimes especially when your children are involved, saying less is more. He just helped Kate look a lot better in this situation and set himself back quite a way!
I agree completely. Jon still wants life in the spotlight, he just wants a different one – Jon wants to party with celebrities. He wouldn’t behave the way he does if he had any real concern for his kids.
Kate abused Jon on national TV. The whole show revolved around Kate. I would have walked out on her years ago, for she is a controlling, uncaring, and manipulative witch.
Kate was so horrible to Jon on their show. If we had seen it the other way around, people would be outraged! He deserves to be hurt and very angry at her. Kate uses those children. That is obvious to anyone who watches or has watched the show. It will take Jon a long time to heal from her behavior towards him. He needs to be watchful of how she treats their children as they cannot stand up for themselves against her.
Do you think possibly that Kates behavior could have been different if for instance Jon actually behaved like a man and a husband? He was a lame fish…he didn’t do anything…it’s obvious alone in his employment history. You can see him on the show doing nothing. Kate kept that family together.
“He was a lame fish” because Kate abused him. If the roles were reversed, and the husband were berating his wife on TV every week, would we still watch? Would we defend him by saying she deserved it? Unlikely. The real losers in this situation are the poor kids.
So, in turn, if an abused woman just acted like a “proper” wife and mother, she wouldn’t be in an abusive situation? Listen to yourself!
I’m sorry, but I disagree. I’m so tired of hearing that Jon was a lame fish. He went to work each day and did what she said. He helped her a lot. He had things that he had to do, before he went to work, while she lay in bed with her coffee. What was he supposed to do, use violence? It’s so obvious she is the boss. I’m also tired of hearing the show is “Good experience.” Experience for what? That’s one of Kate’s comments – amoung many. She can’t answer a direct question if her life depends on it. She loves the camera, that’s also obvious. A star “she ain’t” nor will she ever be. She loves the word “Poparazzi” (not sure of spelling) and uses it more than any real star. I’ve watched this show since it began, but no longer can stand it. TLC needs to discontinue the reruns, because they’re no longer together, and I don’t think she kept the family together. She’s become totally narcissistic. Jon was so nervous, I felt sorry for him. I always felt sorry for him when she’d go off on him, in front of cameras and in stores and such. Standing up to her would’ve made things look worse than she already did.
You are so right-why can’t all people understand this-Jon was treated as he should have been-spineless, whiney, lazy. There’s one person holding these kids together and not resorting to personal bashing and as usual it’s Kate Jon is acting like he always does–whiney-poor me–he isn’t a man-I also would have treated him the way Kate did-as he would have gotten on my nerves being so wimpy
I Think He could have did much more had Kate not been a warden~ I believe he is a product of her abuse~ Just like any “WOMAN” would have been if she went through the same thing ~ It was Her choice to have him at home to watch the 8 Kids remember?
He stayed home and took care of the kids while she travelled. He HAD a job, but quit to help out more at home, and they both concentrated on their website business.
I think BOTH are at fault and no one but the kids should get any sympathy.
I disagree that anyone should be treated badly in a marriage. But, just as Kate made the decision to behave the way she did, Jon made the DECISION to put up with it. His whole ‘I’ve been abused’ thing is getting ridiculous. Did you ever see him stand up to Kate WHILE THEY WERE MARRIED? Surely Kate would have respected (maybe even liked) him more if he’d grown a pair and told her how he felt. Instead he waited until now to “defend himself” (i.e. trash Kate and their marriage) publicly so that his kids could relive every detail of this sad situation for years to come. Way to go, dad!
Julie, you are so right. Maybe if Jon was a man and went to work everyday and supported his wife and kids, Kate would have had more respect for him. If he was my husband, his butt would have been kicked to the curb a long time ago. Hard to have respect for someone who doesn’t have any self respect.
Court Reporter, if you felt sorry for him, then you need to be with him, Also do you even know the meaning of narcissistic? It means someone who cares only of themself with no regard to whom they may harm. That describes John completely.
Julie? Did you watch the show? He did EVERYTHING!! He did all the hard labor, played with the kids (which she admitted she rarely did), bathed them, did every home project, built everything (beds, entertainment centers, storage shelves, carnival booths). I used to feel so bad for him because he was 10 a better husband than my dad and she treated him like trash.
Then he should have walked out, gotten a job, and found a woman to date who is suitable to be around 8 minors. Many people divorce. They then lead separate lives but should still be responsible, not act like 17 y/olds.
We are also reacting to what has been documented in the show or press. I live in a college town in PA, about 2 hours from the Gosslin’s. I heard that Jon slept with a friend of a friend in June 2008. About a month after their vows were renewed on TV. I’m sure this first hand story I heard is not the ONLY one. He has been living this life WAY longer than we knew. If Kate was aware of Jon’s activities, I am sure that is part of the reason she was hard on him on the show. It was said that Jon and Kate had a “contract” allowing his affairs. But seriously all his “dates” seem to come from bar hook ups. He needs to move on in a respectable way for his family.
right on….but u stay for kids till u can’t take it no more.
No matter how much PR Kate pays for, Jon will always come out looking better than her. I find it hilarious when magazines try to paint Jon badly and Kate innocent. Those who have watched the show are well aware who’s fault it is that the marriage ended and how Kate is now being “coached” in everything she says and does. Funny how she pays attention to the boys now and acts like nothing matters. It’s all a farce. She is one big farse.
Wrong, Jessica. Jon already looks bad. He cries about losing his 20’s to parenthood – well TOO BAD! Jerky boy is still a parent, even if having kids gets in the way of his partying.
yes but he has said numerous times he was happy with just the twins, kate was the one who pressed “for just one more”
Jennie, parenthood (especially when dealing with fertility treatments) takes a “yes” from all parents involved. Condoning his complaint of the loss of his 20’s shows that you also view him as a man child unable to make a decision for himself. He should be ashamed of himself to even imply that he regrets those kids. They and Kate have given him a better life than he ever would have recieved with his non-existent work ethic. I don’t think either was perfect in this divorce, but Kate has definitely been WAY more mature. Jon has showed himself to be lazy, childish and full of excuses for his life decisions. What a loser!
I say it’s Jon’s fault the marriage ended badly. Everything started to fall apart shortly after the pictures of Jon and Deana the school teacher were published. Pictures of Jon in a bar with her, leaving her apartment at 7am. Deana even went to Utah with Jon. And don’t forget the picture of Deana sunbathing on the Gosselin children’s front lawn.
Then there was Hailey and Kate 2.0.
Yes Kate nagged and could be annoying but she is a perfectionist and appears to have OCD. I watched an old Jon & Kate episode the other day. Kate was nagging Jon to work out and eat healthy. Is that a bad thing? No, not compared to what Jon did.
chris, may i remind you that in the previous season finale, jon insisted that he doesn’t want to do the show anymore but kate insisted that the show will go on.
and you obviously saw very few old episodes, i distinctly remember episodes when kate asked jon to stop breathing during their couch interview because it was distracting and most of the time she won’t let jon finish with his statements during the interviews, she wants to do most of the talking.
She had to give birth to 6 kids at one time! She is controlling, but Jon never manned up. If it wasn’t for her we wouldn’t be caring about Jon and Kate Plus Eight at all.
Dan–this isn’t a strong argument for those of us who think this kind of “reality” never belonged on TV to begin with. Never watched it and never will. It is just an exploitation of the kids.
Dan… she was the one who pressed after having twins to have another child. Jon stated two was enough… but she pressed on… She’s controlled his life since she met him… He tried to man up but that didn’t work and instead, ended up with six more children! Both Jon and Kate need to shut up already. The kids are going to one day resent if not one of them, both of them. Period.
Even if she pressed for another child if he were truly a man and did not want another child he could have said no i don’t want any more he did not have to go along with the idea. If he had said no then maybe things would have been different. he did not man up then and they had 6 more and he has been miserable ever since and it has shown in the show they have done that he never wanted the 6. How do you think they will feel when they are old enough to google themselves and read all of the things he has said about not wanting them?
Regardless of who wanted or did not want more kids, they both eventually agreed to it. Him saying he didn’t want the last 6 kids after they are already born is a disgrace! That’s very damaging and will scar those children in the long run. Some things are better left unsaid! And I wonder what Jon will say when this Glassman girl that he loves so much wants to have a baby of her own? How will he ever explain to his other 6 children that he didn’t really want them but years later he has children with someone else. Poor kids!!!
I too used to cringe at the way Kate spoke to Jon on the show but after watching the interview and observing how he has carried on since their separation I can only assume he brought a LOT of the abuse on himself by the attitude he carries. He seems to always project a “poor me, woe is me attitude” as tho he is owed something better in life. And since the separation he has gotten himself an apartment in NYC, a mercedes that wouldn’t even begin to accomodate 1/2 of his kids, hooked up with at least 2 different women, (proclaiming one of them is his solemate), taken his “new love” to St. Tropez to party, taken his mother to Las Vegas to party, and in all that time Kate continues to parent the kids. He is pathetic, Kate realized it in the marriage and treated him without respect. I’m sorry but Jon needs to grow up and earn people’s respect. He is 32 going on 17. He certainly doesn’t have my respect after listening to his whiny interview. And I congratulating Chris Cuomo on a job well done in trying to give Jon the chance to try and redeem himself after he gave his pathetic excuses for his immature behavior.
Well said.
I completely agree with everything said. Jon is no different than any other parent going through a mid-life crisis.
I completely agree-when Jon was whining about having children and basically missing his youth (bc thats really what it was all about-he doesn’t want the responsibility or day to day drugery of caring for all those kids)-I thought, thats life Jon-grow up. And that Kate would not let him go out with his friends. Not sure what he meant by that but if I had been hoe with 8 kids under 5 all day you can bet my husband would not be going out with his friends either. He would either be going out with me or staying home with me. And how many lies was he caught5 in-denied the first two affairs (both the women and their friends were lying), his current girl doesn’t party-photos don’t lie. He is saving his money for the kids-except for what he spent on the NYC penthouse and his new car, and his vacations.
Kate doesnt want the responsibility either thats why she is always off working on her “carear” shes only a parent when the cameras are around. only started playing with the kids when the bad pr came out. how many episodes did we see
kate sitting in that plastic chair in the garage not playing with her kids, who this is all for
I agree with Lolla. @ Jennie yes she wants a career what woman doesn’t want or need a creer? As far as her sitting in a plastic chair watching her kids play when they were outside what is wrong with that? at least she was outside with them which is more than can be said for those parents who just send their kids outside to play by themselves with no supervision no matter how old they are. I have and i am sure many other parents have done the same thing. If they are playing with each other, friends, toys or whatever why would you think she would need to be in the middle of all of that all of the time?
Jon loves the money the 8 kids have brought to his life. If he wants to whine about how the additional 6 and show have ruined his life, he should not spend any of the TLC $. Ha like that that will happen. Total man-child loser.
I truly feel for Jon here. Anyone who watched the show when it was actually about the kids, not the drama, knows how Jon was constantly abused and berated by his wife. She even admitted that she sometimes treated him like another one of the kids. In all honestly, I hope that the media starts to give him a break. The man has made mistakes, but I actually believe him when he says he wanted therapy. I don’t believe a single word that comes out of Kate’s mouth. She’s a master manipulator who cares far more about herself than the actual well-being of her beautiful children.
Thank you Jenna. Absolutely correct.
You want the MEDIA to give him a break? He’s the one accepting interviews, hiring PR firms, taking party-hosting jobs in Vegas. Yes, let’s blame the media.
If we believe we saw the “real Kate” on TV, then we must believe we see the “real Jon” now. Prior abuse or not, if he really did do all that therapy then he should know better than to publicly berate the mother of his children.
Oh wait, that’s the same thing he’s accusing Kate of doing. Hmm, but it was wrong when she did it. Interesting.
This guy is a moron. Stop whining. Abused? Do you call walking away from this with a Mercedez and over a million dollars abuse? Hell I have been called alot worse than a “Lame Fish” and would never say anything bad in front of a TV about that person. This guy just needs to shut his trap and move on. His anger to Kate makes you think he really wants her back.
John that is what I am thinking too. Good point.
I totally agree and I wonder what he is going to do when he blows all his money which seems like he has already done since he is asking her for more money. Kate is the one out working, he should only get his cut from the show, its not her fault she is saving money and putting all the extra money in a trust for the kids. People sit there and say she made him quit his job, yet even his old boss said he was FIRED for stealing and misusing comanpy resources. Kate didn’t make him quit anything. Of course she wanted to continue the show because she wants to keep supporting EIGHT kids! A few months ago he claimed she was stealing money and hiding it and then it comes out that she didn’t even touch the money it was in a TRUST for the KIDS. Of course she is going to do as many books, tv, speeches as she can to get money to continue to support the family. Her old job as a nurse would never support the family esp as a single mother. The bill alone to feed those kids would take that entire paycheck. Is Kate strict? Yes, she is also OCD and did yell at him which I would do as well if he was my so called husband since he acted like he was another child and never seemed to help her out at all. Of course she is going to seem like the bad guy if she is the only parent yelling and disaplining the kids because he refused to and refused to parent like an adult. He just wanted to sit there and play around and let her take care of everything. He cries because he wants to go the the bars with his friends and he can’t because he has a family to take care of. Why could he not have his buddies over for a few beers? Do you see Kate crying because she cannot go get drunk at the bars? And he is always taking about how he wanted to stop with the twins and didn;t want more. HELLO those babies are going to see that when they are older. And he had to agree to it when they went to the dr, no dr would do it without the consent of both adult.
I was wondering when someone would bring up the fact he was fired for exactly the reasons you stated. Hardworking, no, he could not even hold a job. If he had been a man then he would have put his family first and never let himself get in that situation. He is whiney, lazy, and thinks only of himself. He complains now, but he(and girlfriends) sure is enjoying all the money his wife has brought in by her being gone on book tours.
Jon was speaking sincerely and from the heart. Kate comes across as robotic and rehearsed.
We watched her abuse him for years and I am glad he finally escaped. Her refusal to go to therapy is very telling – she will never admit that she is wrong.
How do you know she refused to go to therapy? Because Jon said so? Maybe it’s true, but I don’t accept it just because Jon said when he has every reason in the world to want to make Kate look bad.
I disagree with you. I have heard Kate in numerous interviews admit that she is controlling and wasn’t nice to Jon. But what I don’t understand is how people can condone his actions-all of which happened by his own choice. You shouldn’t go out and have all these relationships while you are still married. You shouldn’t be talking about your ex like he is for the sake of the children. This guy has been acting like a jerk and it’s nobody’s fault but his own. In my book, action speaks louder than words and we are all responsible for our own actions!!!
I’m amazed at how many think it is appropriate and justified to combat harsh treatment with more of it. Jon doesn’t get a free pass here, whatever you may think of Kate. These are embarrassing, thoughtless comments that will haunt his children and follow him for the rest of his life. It doesn’t mean it’s perfectly fine to say these things just because Kate “abused” him.
Jon comments can just be added to the pile of embarrassing, thoughtless acts that will haunt his and Kate’s children. Filming potty training, being relagated to the laundry room floor while sick, wearing bibs and using sippy cups at age 5. The list goes on and unfortunately with repeats, youtube and the www their private lives will be on display forever. Instead of dragging the kids all over for more boring TV shows, let them stay home and play and just charge admission to gawk from the gate.
I hope for their sake his kids didn’t hear him say that he despised their mother. Sadly I’m sure someone at school will tell them. I still don’t understand these people-you’re supposed to protect your children when you’re going through a divorce. I feel so sorry for those kids. One day these two are going to be very sorry for the way they have behaved.
As for the comments about there being no Jon and Kate Plus 8 if it weren’t for Kate: It if weren’t for Jon, there would be no 8! Period. Kate lies, manipulates and stomps on anyone who gets in her way. Why do you think she has to stay at a hotel every time she’s in town where the kids live? She’s got lots of family nearby. It’s because she has alienated EVERYONE who was ever in her life–even her own blood relatives. No friends, either. That says a lot about a person.
How can you claim to know so much about Jon and Kate? We only see them and hear them and know them through a media lens; we don’t see and hear everything. With your limited knowledge, your statement that “Kate lies, manipulates and stomps on anyone who gets in her way” sounds like a huge and harsh assumption. Just be honest and admit that you don’t know these people personally, and save some of your judgment for when you know the full story.
She’s alienated her brother and his wife (I believe the wife’s name is Jodi) for sure. They even went on TV to state as much and more.
She alenated her family but that hasn’t stopped them from trying to make money off her and her kids. Great family! I would say she isn’t missing much.
Exactly, A.R. To me, making harsh judgments without knowing the full story, and believing everything you hear and read in tabloids, says a lot about a person. Oh, and making money by airing your family’s dirty laundry also speaks volumes about people. Hmmm…who do we know that has done that recently? The alienated saintly aunt and uncle, perhaps?
oh please jon has done nothing but wine about having kids to early, oh well big boy suck it up you had them, it wasn’t a surprise. seems to me he’s blaming everyone but himself for everything not his fault he had so many kids, not his fault he didn’t talk to his family, not his fault he’s on a reality show, not his fault he’s attracted to a girl 10 years younger then him. pleassssse this jerk need to stop and realize that he has made these choices and live with them.